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Offline bonniebeth

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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 04:25:48 »
 :lol: I don't know... bears would be hibernating if it's snowing. Rabbits and deer are your best bets!

And to be fair, they would send a letter asking the images be removed first. It would be if Sylvia refused to comply with the request we'd be in danger of being shut down. ;)
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 04:36:35 »
Quote from: bonniebeth on November 30, 2011, 04:25:48
:lol: I don't know... bears would be hibernating if it's snowing. Rabbits and deer are your best bets!

And to be fair, they would send a letter asking the images be removed first. It would be if Sylvia refused to comply with the request we'd be in danger of being shut down. ;)

ok BB.....a hunting I will go (for white rabbits...I think might have them in one of my boxes ;D)
no white mountain goats I'm sure :P

meanwhile I stand ever ready to have this thread removed 8-)

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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 08:34:53 »
Quote from: bonniebeth on November 30, 2011, 03:24:51
Not our decision. It's a specific requirement from playmo officials that pics showing playmobil associated with nazi themes cannot be allowed. They would shut us down if we allowed such pictures.

I find that completely ridiculous. But oh well.
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 10:10:58 »
Are those "certain German history"-rules applicable for every photo depicting a German soldier from that period? I ask because not every German was a Nazi back then.


Also, there is IMHO a huge difference between pics from:

A) f.e. a certain "Adolf H.", or a certain "Heinrich H.", or a "Waffen-SS Soldat" (a soldier who is obviously a Nazi, because belonging to the SS).
I can perfectly understand/agree that such guys cannot be shown.

B) f.e. a "U-Boot Mannschaft" (German submarine crew), or a "Wehrmacht Soldat" (regular German army soldier) or a "Luftwaffe Pilot" (German Airforce pilot), who are not necessarily Nazis (which was a political ideology) but who could just be fellows having to join the armed forces because of war.

If guys from B) may not be shown either, can you in that case show British troops or US GI's shooting at German soldiers or not?  And if you could, could you then depict German troops shooting at Americans or British?

If you want to make a Playmobil-custom of a WW II military airplane and show a picture of it, should it then be an Amercan or a British aircraft, or can it also be a German or a Japanese aircraft? If it can, is it allowed to show a German or Japanese pilot?

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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2011, 11:44:07 »
Quote from: bonniebeth on November 30, 2011, 03:24:51
Not our decision. It's a specific requirement from playmo officials that pics showing playmobil associated with nazi themes cannot be allowed. They would shut us down if we allowed such pictures.




It's a question of German law, not Playmobil's whim.  There are strict laws in Germany covering publication relating to the Nazi era.  Playmobil are maybe playing over-safe, but maybe better safe than sorry.
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2011, 12:59:10 »
Yes, that's an interesting point, gordon! In any case, we have to play it safe so geobra's lawyers dont get on us. Cheng, if you want I can split this discussion off from your thread.
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2011, 13:17:28 »
Quote from: Hadoque on November 30, 2011, 10:10:58
Are those "certain German history"-rules applicable for every photo depicting a German soldier from that period? I ask because not every German was a Nazi back then.


Also, there is IMHO a huge difference between pics from:

A) f.e. a certain "Adolf H.", or a certain "Heinrich H.", or a "Waffen-SS Soldat" (a soldier who is obviously a Nazi, because belonging to the SS).
I can perfectly understand/agree that such guys cannot be shown.

B) f.e. a "U-Boot Mannschaft" (German submarine crew), or a "Wehrmacht Soldat" (regular German army soldier) or a "Luftwaffe Pilot" (German Airforce pilot), who are not necessarily Nazis (which was a political ideology) but who could just be fellows having to join the armed forces because of war.

If guys from B) may not be shown either, can you in that case show British troops or US GI's shooting at German soldiers or not?  And if you could, could you then depict German troops shooting at Americans or British?

If you want to make a Playmobil-custom of a WW II military airplane and show a picture of it, should it then be an Amercan or a British aircraft, or can it also be a German or a Japanese aircraft? If it can, is it allowed to show a German or Japanese pilot?

 8} 8}

It would depend on the customs, what was depicted, how it was presented. Really, geobra frowns on modern war customs altogether -- they seem to draw the line at about the time of World War I. However, there are a few customs here of WWI vehicles and even soldiers, just as customs, not engaged in battle scenes, that we have left since they are in a gray area. If Sylvia were to recieve a notice, we would remove them, but for now they're ok as long as they're not gory. I believe GW recieved a letter once about some WWI-era things that were posted on the site, asking that they be removed.

But it is a strict requirement that we not allow depictions of nazis, so we have several times removed excellent custom Hitlers.
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2011, 15:11:21 »
Quote from: bonniebeth on November 30, 2011, 03:24:51
Not our decision. It's a specific requirement from playmo officials that pics showing playmobil associated with nazi themes cannot be allowed. They would shut us down if we allowed such pictures.


Yeah... four or five times.

 
 
that's on the worst case i guess,if someone makes a hitler custom i don't think it's innapropriate  :hmm: :hmm: ,everyone knows about the nazis ,it's not something to hide ,and pf is not a german site so i don't find a reason for a problem..... everyone is free to express himself the way he wants and show whatever he wants as long he doesn't harm others ,we have democracy after all  ;)
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2011, 15:26:36 »
No, but using the word "playmo" in the forum name, and being a site dedicated to sharing playmobil, means we have to have their permission to exist. Doesn't mean we are affiliated with or officially endorsed by them, but we still must follow certain guidelines they came up with to be allowed to continue. If we don't, they have a right to shut us down for copyright infringement.
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Re: Winter hunting party
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2011, 16:15:42 »
Quote from: bonniebeth on November 30, 2011, 15:26:36
No, but using the word "playmo" in the forum name, and being a site dedicated to sharing playmobil, means we have to have their permission to exist. Doesn't mean we are affiliated with or officially endorsed by them, but we still must follow certain guidelines they came up with to be allowed to continue. If we don't, they have a right to shut us down for copyright infringement.

Glad I don't have playmo on my site name anymore (I followed their guidelines on that). Though I'm not into playmogore, regarding what is being depicted, I don't approve of klicky violence ;)

I never understood the stance about this subject. I know in Germany (and France?) they can't legally buy Dragon's excellent figures (since 99% of them seem to be Germans - I assume it sells, I don't know) - saw that in some 12" forum or something. RIDICULOUS, IMO.

(oh well. sorry for the OT)

As soldiers, I really like your customs...
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