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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2011, 09:08:56 »
Sp: Lovely diagonal posts!!! I wondered about this issue while building my 5302 Grande Mansion....how to use diagonals to add on or build a shape other than the standard non square/rectangular boxes. The baseplate and roof pieces need to be modular so that we can design our own footprint and put a roof on it.

Staying with 45 degree angles is a wonderful idea, too, for starters. Your designs are first class. Thanks for doing this, Pgal!
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #61 on: September 02, 2011, 09:09:27 »
Yes I do, in my dreams, but only in my dreams... every morning when I wake up I have to realize that I don't have that job...  :-[

You can always sent you resume and pictures of your lovely work and tell them you are passionate about playmobil, all these are enough reasons to consider seriously employing you !

BAck to topic, look forward to any solution ref the holes i personally dont like at all !  :)
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #62 on: September 02, 2011, 23:41:38 »
Those diagonal poles are amazing, Sir Pleamo  :o! Thanks so much for sharing them with us!
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #63 on: September 02, 2011, 23:46:08 »
Yes, that one simple piece would open up a whole new world of possibilities! :wow: :wow: :wow:
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2012, 22:55:52 »
a sign of life…

Most of you must have realized, that I have not posted anything since weeks and months… Some of you might have thought, that I just skipped my hobby… but do you really think so after all that oil, that I have put in the fire?
Of course not! But what the hell have I done all that time?
Well, as some of you already know, there is a simple and short answer: The birth of our daughter (our second child)… all parents will know how hard it is keeping your hobby AND being a good father/mother… but not participating here personally does not mean that I have not worked on… I am quite proud to tell you that the next version of my 3D-Library is released now, namly version 2.9 which includes nearly 600 parts with over 100 totally new ones and about 20 fixed parts.
Some special parts aside, this package comes mainly with a huge number of smaller parts like signs, fences, posts and all that stuff. Really usefull to "complete" your constructions and ideas.

You do not know what I am talking about? Click cachalote's thread here to get more details (and the history of this project)


The procedure is the same as every time: The passwords and download links are available via PM to me! I hope you will enjoy this new release and make a lot of use of it!

And also the same as always: Ask me what and when ever you want, I will be happy to answer all questions, problems, ideas or notes…


In terms of this threat, this above means, that I soon will come back to the issue here and continue this kind of project, too! So, stay tuned!
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2012, 09:09:00 »
Glad to hear it, Sir Pleamo!!!

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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2012, 14:03:32 »
 :wave: I too have been away from the forum for many months and I'm trying to catch up with a few things. One of the most important to me was Sir Pleamo's excellent 3D work, that I have just recently had the time to try. I've just read all of this thread and although it's been quiet for a long time I think it's well worth reminding other members about.

First of all a huge big thank you and well done to Sir P. for his excellent and time consuming work on his project that we can all benefit from. I'm hoping to do more design work now I've got the hang of it with sketch up. Mainly as I don't own many of the parts myself it makes it so much easier than trying to guess what it would look like.

So how can we help? There doesn't seam to be much progress with the collectors club. Is there anyone who still talks to Geobra? Could we send a petion / letter of support highlighting the possible benefits of including more sys x parts in new sets.

I would have thought it would be easier to create basic parts that can be used over and over again than to designing from scratch a new "clip" building for every new theme. For instance the pirate island lighthouse, if it was made from a part like Sir P's curved wall then the same part could be used for the fairy tale castle, knights castle and as Sir P says modern structures.

(I'm sorry I can't remember who brought these points up)

It was mentioned that sys x could be called a building toy like lego but Geobra doesn't want to go that way. Yet Geobra must recognise that collectors do want to extend their buildings as they do extention sets for the fire station, police headquarters, palace new hotel etc. So there must be a market for it otherwise 1) they wouldn't release the add ons and 2) the big buildings would be made from more "clip" parts.

How can we help support this idea to convince Geobra that is better to go with sys x than clip? Could we ask for more extensions in the new DS range when they consult us? Could we suggest a general add on pack with just one type of part in it that can be used for all these buildings. eg a floor pack or a wall pack, smaller sets with just new windows in?

Again we need to convince Geobra that their spares department could be as big as the preboxed toys if they would let it.

I'm sure most parents when considering buying toys go for things that will last - that means a good range of toys and extras in a theme, so their children wont get bored. Kids like to collect things so give them more expansions to their buildings and they'll buy more furniture sets, more klickies to go in them etc.

I've just had an idea while writing this! Would it help if we all sent them a design based on one of our favourite sets but slightly customised nothing too fancy but to show how we would like to extend or combine their buildings. something simple the average family could build themselves if they had the parts. (wasn't that mentioned as part of the collectors club a sharing of designs?)

Everyone has mentioned a problem with the holes. I often cover mine with rugs. The trouble is if you fill it in with another flat top clip how do you get it out if you change your mind. It's got to have a small hole in it so you can prise it out. The 5302 mansion has blank plates that fit into the standard wall column - the connector that's 2 x 3 holes along the flat side. These or a shorter version could be used on some of the wall joints. There's also several flat end plates used in the shop sets that clip onto the end of walls to cover up the holes. They don't bother me too much as I like the flexibility of the system.

Well that's all I've got to say for now, I'm off to beg for some more parts.
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2012, 14:16:08 »
I agree with everything you say, Emma. It's dissappointing to see a beautiful new set with great customizing potential, only to find out that it's clip system and there's no way to re-purpose the parts. :( I believe that the reason geobra is going this direction is because of complaints from parents. Sadly, a lot of parents do not have the time or inclination to put sets together that have lots of little system x parts. I know I've heard numerous parents complain about this in toy stores.

However, I think that rather than change to a clip system, playmobil needs to adjust their marketing a bit. Silly as it may seem, seeing smiling, happy, beautiful families working as a team to build playmobil sets on TV commercials and in catalog and online pictures might alter some parents' viewpoint.... rather than thinking of the chore of putting the set together for their kids, they might imagine the joy of putting it together with their kids.
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2012, 14:24:32 »
Yeah your right there Bonnie, I always had more fun building things as a kid than I did playing with the end result ( I was a lego fan!)

Geobra have gone part way with the building extensions they just need to market it more. Maybe they'll listen to the fans some time if the club ever gets going!
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Re: Developing System X - or "Don't bring back Steck..."
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2012, 15:47:34 »
A steck castle extension set would be more than welcomed  :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:. God i would buy lots  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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