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Offline BlackPearl2006

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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2012, 06:44:54 »

i would prefer a "full" playmo-version with string rigging and metal anchor and tons of extras (sailores, officers, animals, food, guns, swords) based on the 3940/3286us to a totally new 4 masted / 500 euros set.
"paint" dos wonders to make the same ship look different - just look at the new 5135.


actually, the 3286/5135 wouldn't be a good mould to base an HMS suprise after, IMO, because of its tiered and galleon-sloped decks.  18th century man-0-wars such as the Suprise need streamlined deck profiles with no fore or aft castles (to reduce on wind resistance, for speed).  And it is still a 3-masted square rigger.  The gundeck is very small (not even enough headroom to stand fully upright; you must crouch under there), and there must be guns above deck as well.  They'd need to completely design a new ship from scratch, NOT using 3050, 3286, or the upscaled version of the 4444, and gosh forbid don't use the 4290 ever again.  I know they can make something that big...the victorian houses and castles are huge...they can do this!
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2012, 17:02:53 »
I agree, Atto. Start over from the water up. If it was marketed correctly, people would buy them as fast as they could produce them IMHO! A huge water worthy 4 masted, highly detailed ship,....priceless to a collector!
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2012, 20:06:01 »
I still think a lengthened trimaster based on the 3940 or 5135 would be the best solution.
Okay, Atto, you're right about it's decks being more galleon-like, but such a trimaster could be used for scenes from ca. 1600 till ca. 1800, instead of just the late-18th/early-19th century. I guess they would just have to make a few alterations to the mould and make a stretched-out version.

It would be very costly to create a complete new large trimaster-design, probably be not commercially viable as just some collectors and/or ship-fanatcis would buy it because of it's huge pricetag, and so it would likely end up the way the Mississippi Steamboat did: being a cabinet-display item in the design department's quarters (perhaps they already have a trimaster-prototype display in their offices).

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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2012, 20:09:38 »
well i know a photo its on macgayver website, but i dont know if its ok to post the like , maybe he get offended or anything.
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2012, 21:19:26 »
You mean "The Dolphin"?

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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2012, 21:20:16 »
you know what im talking about mate

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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #86 on: February 05, 2012, 02:10:08 »
8} ... so many ships could be made.
 :love: i still have a special love for the hans beck favourite - the 3750.
 :love: it was the first playmo i bought for my nephew 10 years ago and it was the ship that "pulled" me into the playmo-world.

 :) but, no matter if geobra decided to go with this mould or the bigger 3940 (just as long as they forget the infamous 4290) all i want is a royal navy ship filled with british sailors (not with marines, a mistake they just did with the 5149 and the 5948).

 :) my 3740 schooner just needs a "bigger" sister to keep her company.

 :hmm: geobra did a mistake by trying to profit in the "pirates of the caribbean" to late.
i think this is one of the reasons the ghost-pirate theme failed.

 ;) they should not make the same mistake twice and they should start producing "our" ship just as a new "master and commander" sequel is announced.
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #87 on: February 06, 2012, 01:56:54 »
I think Playmobil needs to start from scratch on a new proper warship.  My dream would be to have a single deck, with a slightly raised forecastle and stern, three-masted mid to late 18th century frigate with the same width as the 3940/5775 but about 50% longer.  Keep the captain's quarter's about the same size as in the 3940/5775, give her twelve real gun ports (include two guns in the set, but make additional pairs of guns available as Add-Ons), a black and yellow color scheme, a bluecoat captain, a redcoat, and two seamen (with a bluecoat first officer and a 3-pack of seamen as Add-Ons).  Charge $200 USD.  This would be a home run among adults and would sell just as well, if not better than, any of Playmobil's circa $200 USD sets, in my opinion.  Go big or go home, Playmobil! :captain:
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2012, 02:08:52 »
Alas,
$200 is just too much for a child's toy.
I don't think such a thing is possible.

But I do think a "sectioned" ship that you can take apart
and buy add-ons for to make it bigger and such would work fine.
We talked about such a ship in another thread... :eh?:
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Re: a new large imperial warship is coming
« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2012, 03:56:51 »
Alas,
$200 is just too much for a child's toy.
I don't think such a thing is possible.

But I do think a "sectioned" ship that you can take apart
and buy add-ons for to make it bigger and such would work fine.
We talked about such a ship in another thread... :eh?:

$200 does seem like a lot, but right now Playmobil's castle and hospital are $200, their school is $185, their fantasy castle is $180, their modern house is $170, and their doll house is $155, so why not a $200 ship?

My concern wtih a modular ship would be that it wouldn't float (not that I care about this, but kids and parents might) and that it would easily break apart.  One really needs a one-piece hull for a ship to work properly.
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