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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2010, 17:00:20 »

I like the system x western forts and naval strongholds, but that's it. I got the newest Lion castle and Rock castle mostly out of couriosity but I did like the results.


pano you like the lion castle?? i think it's problematic if you move it a little it is taken apart also the walls are short like the hight of a klicky the think i like on it is the house the roof is very nice they should use it on the next castles!!!
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2010, 17:05:45 »
I'd love to get my hands on a MISB Colorado Springs Station!
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2010, 17:17:42 »
Ps.

Western Steck ... attached

I don't know if it's good, but it's pretty too, and more playmobil like than anything!

this station is adorable!!! a must in my list...

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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2010, 17:19:43 »
Once more I will talk about a detail that may look like unimportant for collectors but that probably makes all the difference to geobra Brandstätter ...

Playmobil isn't meant for collectors. It's meant for children. And I'll tell you why: nowadays children will be the ones buying playmo for their children (and even for themselves) tomorrow.

So, if you look at the castles about to be launched, for instance, (attached), take a look at their roofs. (I told this once, I'll say it again.) They are "fake roof". They aren't like the old model of castles that Playmobil used to do, which had an actual house in it. It's a "little theatre" Castle Inside ... It's a fake roof. It'll be wonderful for playing (and even for making photostories -- my work! ::) -- but uneffective for realistic dioramas as the ones usually made with steck. (I've seen Napoleonic dioramas, from Garden-Wargaming people, that make you fall off you chair! ~ with steck. Super-realistic.)

What will these guys do with the new castles? Honestly don't know. But children, and "little-theatre" people will enjoy them a lot!, because they're good scenary for little-plays ...

It's somewhat like the old playmo cannon balls: they were substituted by the "arrow" rubber balls we have nowadays. It's much better to _play_ with the new ones, however it's much less realistic.

Well, in a way, playmobil doesn't have to be realistic, but playable, and safe for children.

(One extra pont for steck, once those System X pins are horrible for children to swallow :lol: )

However, to say that playmobil doesn't have to be realistic is a paradox, because it's meant to be realistic, and finding the balance seems to be hard ...

Fact is that they have been trying to become more realistic: if you see the old models of animals, and the new ones, you'll notice that. If you see the old klickys and the new ones, including bikini girls, you'll notice that it's a hard thing to have balance in a toy that is considered (by us, collectors) a piece of art. There's people who only collect & like "vintage" playmo ... Odd, but, well, it's become a product. There's all sorts of playmobil consumers ...

And Zirndorf doesn't have, in a way, to pay much attention to it. Impossible to please everyone.
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2010, 17:23:44 »


pano you like the lion castle?? i think it's problematic if you move it a little it is taken apart also the walls are short like the hight of a klicky the think i like on it is the house the roof is very nice they should use it on the next castles!!!

I love te gate and the house building!!! I am not that thrilled with the walls and the structure did come apart literaly most of the times i tried to move it... But as i've written in other posts, these newer sets can stand out for themselves, at least for me, I do not see the need to expand them.... I use steck for that purpose!!!

@ Gustavo: I agree with your verdict!

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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2010, 17:26:12 »
I love te gate and the house building!!! I am not that thrilled with the walls and the structure did come apart literaly most of the times i tried to move it... But as i've written in other posts, these newer sets can stand out for themselves, at least for me, I do not see the need to expand them.... I use steck for that purpose!!!


 
 
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2010, 17:35:03 »
Once more I will talk about a detail that may look like unimportant for collectors but that probably makes all the difference to geobra Brandstätter ...

Playmobil isn't meant for collectors. It's meant for children. And I'll tell you why: nowadays children will be the ones buying playmo for their children (and even for themselves) tomorrow.

So, if you look at the castles about to be launched, for instance, (attached), take a look at their roofs. (I told this once, I'll say it again.) They are "fake roof". They aren't like the old model of castles that Playmobil used to do, which had an actual house in it. It's a "little theatre" Castle Inside ... It's a fake roof. It'll be wonderful for playing (and even for making photostories -- my work! ::) -- but uneffective for realistic dioramas as the ones usually made with steck. (I've seen Napoleonic dioramas, from Garden-Wargaming people, that make you fall off you chair! ~ with steck. Super-realistic.)

What will these guys do with the new castles? Honestly don't know. But children, and "little-theatre" people will enjoy them a lot!, because they're good scenary for little-plays ...

It's somewhat like the old playmo cannon balls: they were substituted by the "arrow" rubber balls we have nowadays. It's much better to _play_ with the new ones, however it's much less realistic.

Well, in a way, playmobil doesn't have to be realistic, but playable, and safe for children.

(One extra pont for steck, once those System X pins are horrible for children to swallow :lol: )

However, to say that playmobil doesn't have to be realistic is a paradox, because it's meant to be realistic, and finding the balance seems to be hard ...

Fact is that they have been trying to become more realistic: if you see the old models of animals, and the new ones, you'll notice that. If you see the old klickys and the new ones, including bikini girls, you'll notice that it's a hard thing to have balance in a toy that is considered (by us, collectors) a piece of art. There's people who only collect & like "vintage" playmo ... Odd, but, well, it's become a product. There's all sorts of playmobil consumers ...

And Zirndorf doesn't have, in a way, to pay much attention to it.       Impossible to please everyone.
     and even for children these castles are discusting they don't have any style if i was a kid again i woulden't buy them and then they were simular castles like that not playmobil offcource  i never bought something like that  i see what is pretty and what is ugly ,was i a special kid ??   ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2010, 17:55:02 »
 :lol:

I guess you were a special kid, all right. Together with most of us in here! :lol:
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Re: why steck won't be succesfull if they will be realesed again??
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 21:53:18 »
The question might be: "did we ever grow up?" *grin*

I think I am joining the rest of you guys with your verdicts. I am building a medieval tonw...using steck but for our Zoo we will be using Sys X.

The new stuff still needs to prove itself to me.