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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2010, 20:01:31 »
I am working with  a scaled connector design in design software, harder than i anticipated , has brought up more questions than answers especially about heights and connections of other related parts, when and if i have  a proposal will post .. not as easy as i thought .,... >:( >:(

Indeed, The difference in width makes it quite hard to create anything that will work well.
That is why I have the 2 connector holes, having just one on each side is hard... maybe impossible.
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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2010, 20:31:20 »
I've not forgotten that I said I would post some ideas.  I am working on it, in my mind at the moment but progress is being made and it is really finding the time to do some drawings and write things down.  I'm following my own route and thinking of a new system rather than trying to combine two different systems with all the problems that can bring.
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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2010, 05:34:58 »
I've not forgotten that I said I would post some ideas.  I am working on it, in my mind at the moment but progress is being made and it is really finding the time to do some drawings and write things down.  I'm following my own route and thinking of a new system rather than trying to combine two different systems with all the problems that can bring.

Sound interesting Gordon!!! Cannot wait to see your results!!!

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2010, 13:22:17 »
It is very exciting to see the creative forces that have been unleashed here!  People are designing new parts and even thinking up whole new building systems.  To me this is the true beauty of Playmobil: playing with Playmobil, whether one is an adult or a child, encourages creative, outside-the-box thinking.

A few random comments:

- Some folks have questioned the need for a Steck/SystemX connector.  I agree that there is not a lot of demand for one but I still think that it would be great if Playmobil produced one because its use could lead to new and exciting designs that we can't even imagine right now. 

- Steck and SystemX have their problems and limitations, but they have also proven to have wonderful possibiities.  There are a lot of people out there in the world who have already invested in one or both of these systems.  It makes good business sense to support those people with replacement parts as well new parts.  As far as I am concerned, Playmobil never has to release another boxed set of Steck or SystemX if only they would offer parts and (bagged) sets through an expanded Direct Service.

- An expanded on-line Direct Service could be a real benefit to Playmobil from a business perspective. They would very likely see a higher profit on DS items because:
  • they are shipping directly to the consumer who is buying it right now at retail price rather than to a toy retailer (who buys at wholesale price) where an item can sit on a store shelf indefinitely
  • they don't need to use a set box which has its own production costs and leads to higher overall shipping costs due to added weight and size (all that mysterious "rarefied air" that occupies so much space in so many Playmobil boxes.)
  • they would have more and better information about what their customers desire

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2010, 18:25:59 »
It is very exciting to see the creative forces that have been unleashed here!  People are designing new parts and even thinking up whole new building systems.  To me this is the true beauty of Playmobil: playing with Playmobil, whether one is an adult or a child, encourages creative, outside-the-box thinking.

A few random comments:

- Some folks have questioned the need for a Steck/SystemX connector.  I agree that there is not a lot of demand for one but I still think that it would be great if Playmobil produced one because its use could lead to new and exciting designs that we can't even imagine right now. 

- Steck and SystemX have their problems and limitations, but they have also proven to have wonderful possibiities.  There are a lot of people out there in the world who have already invested in one or both of these systems.  It makes good business sense to support those people with replacement parts as well new parts.  As far as I am concerned, Playmobil never has to release another boxed set of Steck or SystemX if only they would offer parts and (bagged) sets through an expanded Direct Service.

- An expanded on-line Direct Service could be a real benefit to Playmobil from a business perspective. They would very likely see a higher profit on DS items because:
  • they are shipping directly to the consumer who is buying it right now at retail price rather than to a toy retailer (who buys at wholesale price) where an item can sit on a store shelf indefinitely
  • they don't need to use a set box which has its own production costs and leads to higher overall shipping costs due to added weight and size (all that mysterious "rarefied air" that occupies so much space in so many Playmobil boxes.)
  • they would have more and better information about what their customers desire



Interesting points indiana!!!

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2010, 13:14:57 »
Back to the point of this thread , i am hoping to post a connector design and a 90degree adaptor in the next few days subject to a check up that its all scaled correctly etc etc  ;D ;D
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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2010, 16:01:58 »
Back to the point of this thread , i am hoping to post a connector design and a 90degree adaptor in the next few days subject to a check up that its all scaled correctly etc etc  ;D ;D

You are quite right, Giorginetto, some of us have strayed from answering Richard's original challenge:


STECK DESIGNER WANTED

We would like to find someone who can revamp Playmobil's SystemX and Steck Systems so that they work together and work better!

This new "combination" system needs to be mathematically logical like Lego only all Playmobil.

Do we have any members here at Playmofriends that can do this? The preliminary design will be presented in Zirndorf in about six weeks!

In thinking about this challenge some questions arise:

- Why do Steck and SystemX have to "work together?"  That implies a set of connector pieces that would allow mixing of the two systems.  Personally, I think that it would be great to have these connector pieces, but I think the larger issue is that the two sets are less than compatible when it comes to color and style.  The ability to order both Steck and SystemX pieces in additional colors would allow structures from the two systems to stand side by side with more success.

- Why does the entire system need to be "mathematically logical like LEGO?"  While LEGO is based upon the brick unit, there are hundreds (thousands?) of LEGO building pieces that are highly specialized and not universal - even the bricks are not 100% universal, something that people discover when they build their own designs.  Both Steck and SystemX may have limitations, but they both possess their own internal logic.  I believe that many of the limitations of the two systems could be resolved by adding new pieces (and colors) rather than by creating a totally new system. 

- How do we make Steck and SystemX "work better?"  Again, the answer is to develop new parts that solve the problems which arise when people try to execute their own designs.  A great number of such pieces have already been identified by folks who make their own building designs - we just need a way to communicate the specifications of those pieces to Playmobil and secure their commitment to producing them.  A few examples would be: 
  • Steck/SystemX connectors
  • 4-way connectors with various combinations of tab edges and slot edges  (i.e. male/female :-[
  • pieces to allow wider structures and taller structures
  • filler pieces for SystemX holes

- If a whole new system were to be developed, will it really be compatible with Steck and SystemX?  If not, then there should be a commitment to make Steck and SystemX parts available since there are so many Playmobil customers who have already invested in Steck and SystemX.

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2010, 17:05:34 »
That's an interesting idea ... I wish I were a designer, or I could help to develop something (anything) for the Playmobil universe ...

I can't, but I could give hint: wouldn't it be interesting if the designers among us could provide drawings? (Maybe not, but, well, it's only an idea ... I'm not a designer, after all.)

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2010, 17:16:22 »
Back to the point of this thread , i am hoping to post a connector design and a 90degree adaptor in the next few days subject to a check up that its all scaled correctly etc etc  ;D ;D

Can't wait to se your results Giorginetto!!!

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Re: STECK DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2010, 19:48:59 »
I beleive that we have strayed a little farther then we think from Richard's original question...

I don't believe what Richard asked was for a new system...
Just a way of connecting the two systems we have.

Wasn't that what this topic was about? ???
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