Author Topic: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?  (Read 4155 times)

Offline playmovictorian

  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 5596
  • Gender: Male
  • Happy Little Victorians
    • @playmovictorianinsta
Bonjour Playmofriends  :wave:

I would love to know your opinion upon one burning issue please  :yup:...

I am in the process of creating an Autumn diorama and in order to do so - and must I precise that I could not find any Automnal Trees whatsoever in the 1/12th scale - I decided to apply a technique I used more than 30 years ago on my model railway : creating vegetation from Blended Tufts & Foliage Fibre Clusters in Early & Late Autumn shades which I apply on top of existing Playmo Trees.

Do you personally think it is going too far by irreversibly alter a Playmo Item for the sake of a diorama ?

Just I like I did with my very first dioramas back in Feb' 09, I navigate between the Playmobil Victorian Theme and the accessories on the 1/12th scale, but never until now, had I modified for ever a Playmobil item...

I wish to highlight the fact that my intention is never to betray the Playmobil Theme but rather compliment it with subtle little touches.

Please do give me your honest opinion as we are here amongst Friends  :)

My Autumn diorama in the making is detailled in comments, tutorials and pictures in a dedicated thread in the Story Telling section.

Karim :)
La, tout n'est qu'ordre et beaute, luxe, calme et volupte. L'Invitation au Voyage. Charles Baudelaire.1857.

Offline Rasputin

  • The Mad Monk
  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 9648
  • Gender: Male
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 13:18:20 »
I am not sure I quite understand what process you are about to undertake but it sounds like you are going to use tree parts. Most tree parts are readily available and can easily be obtained either trough new, used sets or DS. Some times I cringe at some customizers use of rare sets but then I realize that there are thousands of these sets floating out there and some collectors themselves have perhaps dozens of them. With you attention to detail I am quite confident it will be very stunning, and now I am curious as to what you are about to create  :hmm:
If you hear the sound of the bell which will tell you that Grigori has been killed, if it was your relations who have wrought my death, then no one in the family will remain alive. They will be killed by the Russian people. :prays:

Offline Bill Blackhurst

  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 6158
  • Gender: Male
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 13:20:54 »
You are dealing with an exact situation I did earlier when I started modifying, & customizing  :-\. When I got into this new world of change, I at first tried to only modify in a fashion that could be reversed & put back as original  :yup:. Now that I have done many projects in this fashion, I have found that I forget what goes where to make them original again, especially when trading figure parts for avatars & such  :eh?:! I still try to walk a strict line to not permanently change anything, but recently I have started some more extreme projects & it's getting easier to not feel as guilty  :P! You need to try to feel at peace with your end decision  :)9! If you want some ideas maybe, from other members to assist in a transformation of your trees on a temporary basis, you may want to start a how to thread for ideas so you can use the trees for autumn use only this Fall with a dead line   ;)!
  Forget about all of the other stuff,....all we need is the reintroduction of the 3526 Fire Engine!

Offline Richard

  • Retired Playmobil
  • Wargamer
  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 4965
  • Gender: Male
    • Garden Wargaming
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 13:30:02 »


Hello, Karim ...

I think that both Ras and Bill have offered some very good advice.

As Ras said "there are thousands of these sets floating out there" and as Bill so succinctly put it, "You need to try to feel at peace with your end decision."

Look around this forum, at GW-PC, at Playclicks and at Klickywelt. Look at the beautiful customs that Macgayver has created. There are irreversible Playmobil customs being created everywhere.

The decision has to be yours!

All the best,
Richard

Edit: Corrected typo.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 14:31:13 by Richard »

Offline Bill Blackhurst

  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 6158
  • Gender: Male
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 14:03:18 »
Not knowing which Playmobil trees & what you have in mind for recoloring them, let me give you an example for a temporary project I would use for the set 7889 tree. I would get some children's washable glue that can be removed with soap & hot tap water from children's clothes if it's spilled on them. I would pour it into a bowl, & use a wide small painters brush to apply it to the 30023900 foliage bunches one at a time. When the entire leaf assembly is coated even underneath if you desire, you would sprinkle the desired color mediums onto the bunches while the glue is wet until they are covered, & alternating colors as you wish. If you make a mistake, you can wash the assembly with hot soapy water, & start over. Once you are finished with your story you can leave it permanent or wash all of the evidence away. A similar temporary project can be done for a winter snow scene is to set up your entire scene as you want it, then take bags of loose fine grain crafting snow and pour it into a vegtable strainer. Shake the strainer containing the hobby snow over the entire scene. The Playmobil genuine pinetrees look really good done in this fashion! It will look just like real snow! There are some cautions though, do this project away from animals, & children in an enclosed room, because it will get tracked throughout your house! When you are finished with your winter scene, cleanup of the snow scene can be done using a small shop vacuum with a particle filter. You will empty the shop vac when it becomes full into large zip lock bags so you can recycle the snow for next time.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2009, 14:14:50 by Bill Blackhurst »
  Forget about all of the other stuff,....all we need is the reintroduction of the 3526 Fire Engine!

Offline Jimbo

  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1396
  • Gender: Male
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 14:45:17 »




 
 

I wish to highlight the fact that my intention is never to betray the Playmobil Theme but rather compliment it with subtle little touches.

 

   

 

Hi Karim,
After admiring your great work using the Victorian theme, I doubt that you would betray the
Playmobil uniqueness.  The Playmobil simplicity almost begs to be complimented. 

Go for it! :yup:

Best regards,
Jimbo

Offline Indianna

  • Playmo Detective
  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1380
  • Gender: Female
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 14:57:25 »
Karim -

I have just taken a quick peek at your Autumn Diorama thread in the Storytelling section - all I can say is that I am dazzled beyond belief!!! :inlove:  Those peaches!!!! And those apples!!!!!!   :clap: 

As others have already said, it simply would not be possible for you to betray the spirit of Playmobil in any way, shape, or form.  So I would say go ahead and do whatever you like to any Playmobil part because the end result will certainly be worth it.

Clever of you, though, to have your klickies doing a lot of the heavy tree work!   ;)

- Anne

U.S.A.      Massachusetts

Offline playmovictorian

  • Playmo Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 5596
  • Gender: Male
  • Happy Little Victorians
    • @playmovictorianinsta
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 15:09:12 »
Dear Friends  :wave:

I am extremely touched by your kind words that really have made my day  :yup:!!!

I am hard at work at my Autumn diorama with hopefully, the first pictures of the story this evening...

Karim :)
La, tout n'est qu'ordre et beaute, luxe, calme et volupte. L'Invitation au Voyage. Charles Baudelaire.1857.

Offline Andy R

  • DPAAAGG.
  • x
  • Playmo Addict
  • ****
  • Posts: 742
  • Gender: Male
  • I come here for peace and quiet.
    • http://www.survival101.wetpaint.com
Re: Playmo Tree Custom : can one go too far for the sake of a diorama ?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 12:59:12 »
If it comes out looking good, I say do it.:D
If I’m jealous, you did SOMETHING right. Keep it up. :D
I Support Operation Anime Storm..