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Offline Richard

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ADULTS ONLY
« on: June 22, 2009, 01:23:36 »


ADULTS ONLY

Geobra has suggested that any customizing that might be dangerous for children should not be made public. Most of us probably agree with that idea.

Andi has some great information about restoring white Playmobil parts. Bill has some customizing tips using "dangerous" tools. And, what about all the many other things that we could share to help each other with customizing, maintenance and repair? Things that we may not want to post for fear of putting some youngster at risk?

Therefore, how about making the How-To section of Playmofriends a "restricted" area for our adult customizers? And, for members who have been here for the same length of time that it takes for newcomers to see the PFZ?

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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 02:05:07 »
This is an excellent recommendation Richard! It could prove to be a helpful resource for the adults only sector of this forum! Although I would hate to restrict the present "how to" topic section up to now, may I suggest that there be a new xxx how to board for future customizing restoration, refurbish procedures with no restrictions? The old board could be left intact for harmless hints that anyone can benefit from, but when there are hazardous chemicals, power tools, spray painting, heat sources, cutting, sharp knives, saws, dynamite, explosives, gruesome Klicky dismemberment, or any other extreme customization procedures involved like on Myth Busters as they are constantly reminding people "we are professionals, don't try this @ home!", the "xxx how to board", just kidding  :lol:, would be put to use!
« Last Edit: June 22, 2009, 02:11:37 by Bill Blackhurst »
  Forget about all of the other stuff,....all we need is the reintroduction of the 3526 Fire Engine!

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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 05:54:42 »
I think Bill's refinement of Richard's idea is a good one.  I vote to make it so.
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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2009, 07:36:04 »
good idea
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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 07:52:22 »

On the face of it, it is a very good idea... but it does pose some administrative problems. You knew there was going to be a "but," right? ;)

Firstly, I would have to manually put all members under 18 into a separate membergroup in order to restrict their access to the new board. At the moment, there are no such delineations based on age.

Secondly, I don't know who is under 18 because people are not required to put their birthdate when they join. They only need to confirm that they are over 13 years old by ticking the box.

A way around this might be to add yet another required field to the membership form, but even then there is no way to force people to fill it in. I would probably be constantly chasing people who missed out the question to confirm their age before letting them in. (I already do a lot of "chasing" for other missed questions, so I'm being realistic here rather than pessimistic.)

Another way is to raise the minimum age for all new members to 18. Those child members who are already known to us would not be thrown out, of course. But I would still have to put them into a different group to make the "Adults Only" board invisible to them. Another difficulty here is not knowing exactly when the child members will turn 18. I would have to wait for them to ask me for access to the restricted board because there is no way to make that automatic.

Btw, the PFZ is visible as soon as people have completed registration and had their accounts activated. There is no minimum post count required in order to access that board.

It's the "Shopping & Auctions" board which is not visible to all members immediately. You need to have 25 posts in order to access it:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=100.0

The simplest way to restrict access by board is to base it on post count. Maybe it would be better to make the new board a VIP area which can only be reached after several hundred posts? I really must stress that the one thing we don't want to do is make it an 'anything goes' board. I would still insist that all basic guidelines on posting content and behaviour are met, regardless of whether the area is invisible to younger members.

It's likely a heavily restricted board will cause a rift between those who are allowed to see it and those who are not. For example, if someone was to reference information in the hidden area back in the public zone, the ones who can't go and read it for themselves might feel that they are being discriminated against.



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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 08:28:41 »
I think this is nothing more than a slight overreaction to Playmobil's new 'suggestions' on how they would rather Playmobil be used, rather than real concern's about children hurting themsleves customising Playmobil. I think some people feel a bit put out because Geobra have dared 'suggest' how we might use their toy. After all what we seem to forget that first and foremost this is a toy, a toy designed for children. Its ashame that some adult collectors have got to the stage where they think Playmobil is just for them and thats ashame. Geobra allready go out their way to accomodate us as adult collectors.

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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 09:39:17 »
So Geobra has lost touch with the real world as we all know that most kids are customizing at some stage in order to take the fun further :yup:...

Have we not all repainted model cars, exchanged one head for another, cut through miles of cardboard boxes or polysterene...and as far as I can remember, I was using cutters and cissors and never hurt myself.

The only time it really happened was when the girl of my dreams - I was 7 - passed in front of my kitchen window and I managed to stapple my thumb  :(which was a pain quite similar to removing the electrodes from Bill's hairy chest version of G. Clooney  :lol:!!!

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 09:56:27 »
... I think this is nothing more than a slight overreaction to Playmobil's new 'suggestions' on how they would rather Playmobil be used, rather than real concern's about children hurting themsleves customising Playmobil. ...

I agree with you Tim.
I think that after the Biblical Playmobil site was opened some Legal questions were raised and in selfdefence Geobra was forced to put this up. That's all.
I think it's actually wonderfull that Geobra took the extra effort to make exceptions for the fans... They could just as easily made the point that in their opinion it shouldn't be tempered with it all. (Or is that "tampered" ???)

So ... that's my own 0.02 worth and it's my final say on this as well. I am not going to let something like this spoil my pleasure with a child's toy.

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 11:07:01 »

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but it is sort-of related, if only indirectly since part of the article concerns the selling of customized figures (which were apparently constructed from stolen parts).

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090616/local/reassembled-playmobil-figures-projected-violent-image

The figures in question were also of a macabre nature, so it puts a different spin on it, but it does prove that Geobra are giving the whole customization process very serious thought.


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Re: ADULTS ONLY
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 13:45:27 »



On the face of it, it is a very good idea... but it does pose some administrative problems. You knew there was going to be a "but," right?
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