TLF24 for Copt Hewick Volunteer Fire Brigade

[Gepetto]

Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.

Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?



Gepetto

[playmofire]

Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.

Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?



Gepetto

Thank you for your kind comments, Gepetto, and I'm happy to answer any questions.  The tank is carried on the WCr and is a collapsible one, possibly a canvas one erected over a metal frame.  The water tanker has what's known as a dump valve which allows its load to be dumped into the tank very quickly at one go.

[Bill Blackhurst]

Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.
Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?
Gepetto

The ones we used in the US fire services when I was active were usually carried in a collapsed position, by large tanker trucks, & were a foldable hinged metal frame with a durable heavy vinyl liner like an above ground swimming pool! The tanker crew would deploy the portable water reservoir, fill it from their tank, & then go to the nearest water supply source, refill their tank, & shuttle the water back to refill the portable reservoir continuing this mission throughout the fire battling process. The engines would siphon the water from the portable reservoir to fill their on board tanks, & supply the firefighting teams. Normally there were multiple supply tankers to shuttle the required water needed on the job. How do British fire brigades accomplish this task?

[playmofire]

Impressive array of engines, & equipment  ! Let me know if you are considering retiring your 3879 ladder truck, I may like to work out a deal if you are going to substitute it with the new style 4820! Thank's to your help with the flashing light dilemma, I now am up to 32 x 3880, & 5716 engines with 4 of them currently being converted to rescue tenders  !
It's my humble opinion that the 3880 engine design with the shutter doors has been the most versatile so far, & I'm slightly disappointed in regards to the new 4821 engines doors flipping up instead of sliding upwards into the body like the 3880's.

Thank you, Bill.  Diane says she is glad that I chose the idea of a small, volunteer fire brigade!

As regards the 3879, I'd be happy to come to some sort of deal, although I must say that it has been modified by having a couple of holes drilled in the surface behind the fold down locker cover; these are to allow storage of the stretcher off the ladder cage.

I agree with you about the 3880.  Those roller shutter doors are a beautiful piece of design and adaptation of the real world to the miniature.  I imagine that to have six of these on the new 4821 would pose design/strength/cost problems.  A possible compromise would have been to have had lift up locker covers which slide into the top of the body, like in the attachment, but maybe that would have meant a too wide body compared with other trucks in the range.

[Gepetto]

Thank you Gordon and Bill for your explanations.   I remember when I used to hunt, seeing crews in the logging areas filling their tankers from the most improbable little streams and digging little 'collecting pools' to pump the water from. This really is fascinating stuff!



Gepetto

[playmofire]

The ones we used in the US fire services when I was active were usually carried in a collapsed position, by large tanker trucks, & were a foldable hinged metal frame with a durable heavy vinyl liner like an above ground swimming pool! The tanker crew would deploy the portable water reservoir, fill it from their tank, & then go to the nearest water supply source, refill their tank, & shuttle the water back to refill the portable reservoir continuing this mission throughout the fire battling process. The engines would siphon the water from the portable reservoir to fill their on board tanks, & supply the firefighting teams. Normally there were multiple supply tankers to shuttle the required water needed on the job. How do British fire brigades accomplish this task?

Broadly as you have described, Bill. Here's some photos from Shropshire fire service's site.

[Gepetto]

Great! Thanks for the photos Gordon, they are indeed worth a thousand words.



Gepetto

[noodwachter72]

beautiful Pict's

a specials foam blusser with specials  nozzle's and mixers build in the truck

well done

groet Peter

[noodwachter72]

Hallo  Gordon

I upload a couple of pictures of mine foam branch fore middle foam and heavy foam

and the parts i made them of.

groet peter

[noodwachter72]

dit you all make a foam mixer fore in bitween hoses