I bought a 4029 a while ago from an LGB train collector. Unfortunately it didn't come with the box, because he said the box was too big for his shelves. So, instead, he had each car/engine bubble wrapped and stored in a shelf next to each other. I was very disappointed to not have the box, paperwork, or the accessories (he couldn't remember where they got stored), but he did knock $100 off the price, and everything was in mint condition as he only ran it one time before he wrapped it up.