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Offline Rasputin

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New Old Knights
« on: February 21, 2009, 18:03:19 »
Well last week I saw a local add for a Playmobil lot. I asked the seller to send me a picture as the description only said a lot of old stuff  :hmm:. He said there was too much and it was in a big pile . seeing as it was near my Mums house and i was not going to be there in a week so i gave up  :'(. A day ago the add was back up locally and the price was even lower  :P I again asked for a picture and this time he sent two  8} ( i can show them but it is really just two big piles of stuff ). When i saw a few key items and for the price i had to have it  :lol:. I made a special trip to visit my mum and i picked up the lot  :love:. I will be asking for help IDing some things and finding some strange parts in the future . 

OK here are my first ever chrome knights .


There were a lot of stecks but these, and the trees i already had ( but not the new signs )


from the looks of what is there i assume it was parts to the first generation late 70's knights
and there is that cannon behind a tree
« Last Edit: February 21, 2009, 18:21:03 by Rasputin »
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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 18:58:30 »
Oh mama! What a haul, I love those cannons, I love everything I am seeing :love:, congratulations Rasputin :wow: you are building quite a legacy for your boys (you, however are doomed, doomed to collect everything, all the time, congratulations :lol:).




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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 19:02:41 »
Be careful Rasputin, those chrome knights can grow on you, then you are searching for them everywhere! All the time! :yup: 8}




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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 21:14:27 »
Nice caught Ras  :)9! Did you get any modern stuff in the lot you may not want to keep  ;)?
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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 09:24:06 »
Quote from: Rasputin on February 21, 2009, 18:03:19
from the looks of what is there i assume it was parts to the first generation late 70's knights
and there is that cannon behind a tree

Yes, indeed they are form the 70's because I also have those red "Stadtwache" soldiers. Although there are obviously some new parts also included (the white/pink lady in the castle and for sure the red framework house)

Am I blind? What cannon behind a tree?

Congratulations, quite cool items you could organize.
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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 09:26:41 »
Nice buy, Ras.  Those silver knights are classic PM.

I, too, like Little Jo fear for my eyesight!
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Offline Martin Milner

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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 09:35:32 »
Nice Haul Ras! Are the buildings and trees part of the haul too, of stuff you already had?

Regarding the actual age/generation of the knights, from what I can see I'd say they're 3rd generation - but we have to clarify what we mean by generation.

Here's my suggestion, open to correction or clarification:

1st Generation knights (1974) have chrome bodies & accessories (e.g. weapons, bullet shaped helmets and crowns) and non-turning wrists. (e.g. set 3269)

2nd Generation knights (1977) have coloured bodies with clip-on chrome armour, chrome accessories and non-turning wrists. Helmets were more detailed (e.g. sets 3265,  3291)

3rd Generation knights (1983) have chrome armour & accessories and turning wrists, (e.g. set 3905). From now on they all have turning wrists.

4th Generation knights (1986) have all black bodies and non-chrome armour, but still some chromed weapons. (e.g. set 3329) From now on chromed armour is dropped (except for the anniversary releases, Silver & Gold Knights on horseback).

5th Generation knights (1993) with front or back printing, non-chromed weapons, and detailed two-colour leg mouldings sometimes with printing (e.g. sets 3668, 3669, 7123, 3659, 7664) Some sets mirror previous compositions, with new mouldings and printings (as 3669 mirrors 3329). A Golden year for Knights with many new sets and the 3666 large castle.

6th Generation knights (2004) have armour moulded into their arms. (e.g. sets 4436, 5815)


I'm trying to identify major steps forward in design - e.g. did leg printing happen at the same time as the new leg moulds? If so that's only one generational step. I've added year of first appearance (in Germany) to the generations.

Not all knights currently manufactured have moulded armour for their arms, but I count this as an evolutionary step forward, not necessarily to everyone's taste.

Your figures are 1982 or later, as they have turning wrists. If you dare to pop one open you can see if it's 1986 or later, when the chassis was redesigned to its current form but the legs were still the basic style. I'm not sure if this counts as a generational step, because it doesn't alter the outward appearance of the figures, and may have happened at the same time as another evolutionary step.
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Re: New Old Knights
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 01:06:37 »
 8}

L*U*C*K*Y FELLA!!! ;D

Congratz!
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