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Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« on: July 13, 2024, 11:11:42 »
I am busy building up everything I have, and I have a short hunting spear in black. It's usually in dark grey, PlaymoDB does not show it in black at all, only in dark grey and gold.

Could be that I got it second hand with some other stuff, but I am completely clueless about where it is from.

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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2024, 09:13:58 »
Yes but in black. Those are all dark grey and I have several of those sets.
Only one black spear though.


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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2024, 04:13:29 »
Pretty sure I have a black one, would have to dig it up
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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2025, 18:23:17 »
I am a bit late to responding here, but was the source of the spear ever discovered?

I believe I've seen one of these in black at some point too, but I do not have one. Another possibility is that it could perhaps be one of the early chrome-plated ones with the plating entirely flaked off; it seems like some of those pieces were made in a variety of different colours before being plated.
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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2025, 11:51:51 »
Nope, it is still a total mystery where it's from.

It hasn't been chrome plated, I never had those, all these spears I did get from sets, I don't think I ever got one second hand either.


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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2025, 13:24:03 »
It hasn't been chrome plated, I never had those, all these spears I did get from sets, I don't think I ever got one second hand either.

Do you think it was from a recent set or an older one?
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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2025, 18:22:29 »
Well I have barely bought any playmobil in recent years, last year quite a bit but that was not mixed yet with the other stuff when I build up everything, I did have the short spear stored in a box of weapons, put with the other spears.
And none of that was brand new sets either, it was pretty much all older sets too.


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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2025, 11:03:59 »
It's probably from a set which normally had a dark grey spear. Maybe the stock of spears used to make up the sets ran out and a few hundred more were created, but the colour wasn't matched properly. Maybe the dark grey colour was called for, but perhaps an injection moulding operative thought black was near enough!

There are other examples of sets containing slightly different coloured parts in different examples. For example, Color set 3624 is shown on the box and most pictures of real examples of the set as having a white saddle, a white shield and a chrome breastplate, but examples do exist of sets with a black saddle, a black shield or a white breastplate. Black saddles and shields are found in several other sets, so they would be readily available to use when the white ones ran out and the time and money involved in creating more white ones could be avoided. With the breastplate, I imagine it would be much easier to create white ones than chrome ones if the stock of chrome ones ran out. I believe that breastplate, in white, was not used in any other set, so it would have to be created specially.

Most sets have 'alternative parts' which were probably replacements for parts where stock had run out. Take the famous set 3666, for example. At the bottom of the Playmodb inventory page are 10 'Extra parts not include in inventory.' Most of these are identical to other, included parts. But 30077100 'Keys on keyring' is gold, not bronze. Perhaps another example of less-than-exact colour matching?
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Re: Short spear in black, what set is it from?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2025, 23:47:32 »
It certainly seems like a possibility that it was from a set that would ordinarily contain the spear in the normal colour as GrahamB noted.

This seems even more likely since Rhalius noted that he got it from an older set himself, so the other potential explanation that it was an unreleased part that he purchased from someone is probably not the case. Some unreleased (but almost certainly genuine Playmobil) parts occasionally appear for sale, and they are sometimes in very desirable colours! I've seen many of them appear in pictures here. I'd consider a black spear like this to be quite a good find. :)
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