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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2020, 07:56:51 »
Headline's a bit oversold - they're referring to the Achilles and Patroclus figures in the new Greek myths theme. In other words this set isn't being introduced because of homosexuality, but because of Greekness.

There have been a bunch of titles about the same - I assume some idiot made one, and all the others thought to pick up on it...  ::)

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2020, 10:31:18 »
Clickbait  :lol:

I'm surprised they bothered with Patroclus. He's kind of a minor character. 

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2020, 10:41:59 »
Clickbait  :lol:

Very much so.   >:(

Are there prices for these sets yet? And any confirmation of availability in other countries?

Didn't the gods appear in other countries? Some of them?  My poor old head.


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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2020, 14:36:47 »
Very much so.   >:(

Are there prices for these sets yet? And any confirmation of availability in other countries?

Didn't the gods appear in other countries? Some of them?  My poor old head.

The other article linked by JMat says "Pas de vente en Belgique pour l'instant
Dans un premier temps ces figurines ne sont disponibles qu’en Grèce, elle pourrait arriver chez nous dans quelques années." Translate tells me: not available in Belgium now, they "maybe" will arrive in a few years. So they don't know.

This blog is linked, mayhaps they know more, have to run though will look more closely later! https://antiquipop.hypotheses.org/7254
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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2020, 15:13:56 »
The other article linked by JMat says "Pas de vente en Belgique pour l'instant
Dans un premier temps ces figurines ne sont disponibles qu’en Grèce, elle pourrait arriver chez nous dans quelques années." Translate tells me: not available in Belgium now, they "maybe" will arrive in a few years. So they don't know.

This blog is linked, mayhaps they know more, have to run though will look more closely later! https://antiquipop.hypotheses.org/7254

Yeah, MAY arrive in SOME years. That means... nothing, to me - I WILL get those sets. Question is wait cause they WILL BE HERE (with a date!), or nag someone in Greece (my wallet is already cursing)... Shipping must be a disaster. :(

I can't remember if all the gods appeared and where... Can anyone? 

The blog looks interesting, but though I MOSTLY understand the bits I read, my french is not very... fluid.

(maybe this should be moved to the Greek sets topic?  :-[ )

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2020, 02:54:44 »
Moved to the Greek thread, thanks tahra.

Looked at that French blog a little more closely, they offer an English version of the article but it's only slightly better than machine translation: https://antiquipop.hypotheses.org/antiquipop-english/7254eng

They don't even discuss whether the sets will be available elsewhere. Doesn't seem to be their line of interest.

They might be the source of the "first homosexual klickies" articles, as they write:

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The Iliad also inspired a box… and we could almost say that Playmobil represents for the first time a same sex  couple: Patrocle and Achilles. With its chariot, the set echoes a famous episode from the epic: Achilles’ anger after his lover Patrocle was killed by Hector.

"Could almost say" is sensible, unlike the clickbait pieces.

I dispute the following, about the set of gods that have already come out:

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For this set, the brand selected the most popular and recognizable  gods and godesses of Greek mythology, although one may be surprised by the presence of Hestia and the absence of Dionysus and Hades. The latter was perhaps considered too associated with the death and the rape of Persephone for children’s toys (which is not always a problem, see the children’s literature on this myth).

For a blog focussing on antiquity they should have known that the twelve gods selected are the Twelve Olympians, the classic pantheon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Olympians) Hades doesn't live on Olympus and isn't part of the Twelve; the only choice made was between Dionysus and Hestia, both of whom are sometimes counted among the Divine Dozen. Hestia was probably chosen to keep the sex ratio even - six girl gods, six boy gods. And Dionysus appears to be appearing in the Olympus playset, as this same blog notes. However:

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It seems that this set [the Olympus palace set] is notably intended to accommodate the 12 deities already on sale and that, in addition to the king of the gods, Dionysus, a muse and Pegasus are also included.

The lady klicky in the palace set is not a Muse! They helpfully provided a direct link to the Greek catalog (https://www.playmobil.gr/content/katalogviewer/KatalogViewer.html) where the set is shown on page 43. The text is happily CTRL-C-able, so I popped it into translate and discovered she's one of the Χάριτες, which means Graces, a different but I am sure equally charming treble set of goddesses! Whether she's Aglaea, Euphrosyne, or Thalia is left to our imagination it seems! (Zeus of course shows up for a second time in this set, in a fetching dark outfit. I suppose they couldn't leave him out.)

Again, surprising that an antiquity blog wouldn't check this detail.

And this made me laugh:

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For Greek myths, we identify above all a desire to give a place to women, through the selection of myths and divinities, but the skin colour of the characters remain quite uniform and white for Mediterranean people… Children are not yet ready to discover Greek Antiquity in all its nuances. Maybe next time?

Being concerned about the skin color of Greek gods is more than a little weird! :lol: They need to go back to studying the basics of the mythology!

As for acquiring these sets, I will move heaven and earth to get them. Even if they are not released outside of Greece, I am confident that there will be many sets on the market - sadly the looming economic situation will see a lot of sellers. :(  Shipping might be awful, but I don't care. I must have these.

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2020, 06:08:46 »
As for acquiring these sets, I will move heaven and earth to get them. Even if they are not released outside of Greece, I am confident that there will be many sets on the market - sadly the looming economic situation will see a lot of sellers. :(  Shipping might be awful, but I don't care. I must have these.

These are a must have for me as well... I just wish they'd freakin' tell us.. It's idiotic to go nagging people, pay high shipping costs and have the sets appear here a few months later... (I am not THAT desperate - I could wait, IF it was certain they'd appear)

And we need the prices to do some planning (wallet shudders)..

Also, did anyone see the klickys around? I didn't... YET, I hope... Plenty of these are worth buying by the dozen..  >:D

Some high res pics to drool over would be good too..  ;D

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2020, 06:18:57 »
Some high res pics to drool over would be good too..  ;D

Are the amclicks ones not hi-res enough for you? http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nueva-serie-de-mitologia-griega-para-septiembre-de-2020/
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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2020, 07:32:46 »
Are the amclicks ones not hi-res enough for you? http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nueva-serie-de-mitologia-griega-para-septiembre-de-2020/

:o  .. either I missed this completely, or I forgot, which is even worse  :-\

Thank you!  :love:

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Re: Sep 2020 - Greek Mythology?!
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2020, 09:31:40 »
http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nueva-serie-de-mitologia-griega-para-septiembre-de-2020/

Well, they are even better as I thought, after watching these pics closer... amazing sets  :love:
Thanks, Macruran!

I'll join the club of fans "moving heaven and earth" to get these  ;D
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