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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 15:37:23 »
Where will Star Wars be in 20 years time other than in a vague haze of muddled memory?

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Sorry but this cracked me up. Star Wars has been a commercial juggernaut for the past 40 years. It has made the fortunes of Hasbro and Lego, the top two toy companies in the world. And as has already been said, with Disney's takeover and the film per year, Im positive it can keep going strong for the next forty, unless there's the Apocalypse or something like that.

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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 16:02:05 »
Well we just received the IndigoKids Christmas catalogue this past week and Playmobil got half a page but appeared first on page 12 where as Lego got two pages and appeared on page 24 and 25. So being first in the catalogue has to count for something right?






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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 16:36:07 »
People keep going on about lego and licensing, but look at those pictures, 2/3 of it is in-house, non-licensed products and lines, and video games and other multimedia stuff. Eh, it's probably envy speaking most of the time guys  :P

And playmobil? What's that? A scammel? Is that right? As a christmas present? No way  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 17:45:47 »
I recently got the catalogue for Mastermind Toys, a small Canadian chain that carries higher-end and educational toys. The catalogue was only 40 pages, but Playmobil was well represented. 

They had a half page just for them, featuring the summer waterpark theme as well as the children's hospital. Then on a page of hockey toys there were several from the Playmo theme, including the Stanley Cup Presentation, which I didn't even know about.  And then on a Christmas page there were the advent calendars.

I was in Costco yesterday and surprised not to see the annual sets there yet.

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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 08:01:59 »
I agree with Iclaudius that it is a shame that many children never have the chance to play with Playmobil. What I care most about is that Playmobil should survive in a world which is increasingly dominated by other brands, some of which are, frankly, trash.

Take the non-Playmobil options on that Indigokids page T_M_H just showed; toys which encourage a child to role-play a Superhero (Batman), experience being a person who sweeps and cleans the house, develop into someone obsessed with their own hair and make-up or someone who thinks being a vet might be glamorous. Yes, I am being judgemental and there need to be a variety of toys to suit all tastes, but as in many aspects of parenting, I am often dumbstruck by the poor choices adults let their children make (or even encourage them to make). My dad wouldn't allow me to have toy guns as a child, which at least made me think about the issues around firearms (me and my brothers had to find gun-shaped sticks to use instead.... :-[). We did have Lego, but that was in a Time Before Playmobil.  :gent:

Selling toys is about making money. Tesco promote the toys which are best sellers in their Christmas brochure. Even dedicated toyshops stock what will sell, so not all of their offerings are 'sensible' toys. Early Learning Centre (a UK toy chainstore, also with a presence in the US for a few years, now subsumed by the Mothercare chain) used to have a policy of selling neither Barbies nor gun-toting Action Man; in fact their TV adverts featured representatives of each toy trying to walk into an ELC shop and being barred entry. But that policy lasted only a few years and then they started stocking Barbie dolls. Money won over principles.

I quite often pick up second-hand Playmobil lots I have won on eBay. Most of the homes I visit to do this are occupied by families in higher income brackets (detached houses, big gardens, 2+ vehicles), which goes to show that maybe Playmobil is largely bought new by people who have higher incomes (or perhaps people who go to the trouble of selling unwanted items on eBay and are therefore careful with money). Maybe I shouldn't generalise from that, but I do think Playmobil is seen as a pricey toy by UK families.

And I do think Lego is a great toy on the whole, but presenting one scene from one movie in a Lego set seems to miss the potential for encouraging children to think for themselves.

And one final thought- many Playmobil sets reflect the world in which children live, not a fantasy/movie world (Harry Potter, Star Wars, Hobbit/LOTR, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc.). It seems that for some children, playing with a model School is far more attractive than playing with a Flying Car Lands in Womping Willow set. That's just a feeling I have. But perhaps role-playing real world scenarios might be more popular with girls than boys? That Indigokids catalogue page might suggest as much.
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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2016, 10:39:24 »
On the one hand you are criticising a brand because it doesn't offer enough creativity, and on the other you praise another because it is grounded in real life?

At the end of the day, creativity is a strange thing.  Creative people can be creative with a licensesd set. Uncreative ones, you cna give them anything and they will still not manage to squeeze an ounce of cretaivity out of a playmobil scammel set.

Quentin Tarantino played with Evil Knievel action figures, doesnt seem to have hampered his creativity one bit.

It's true about high income families and toys, though. But it was always like that. We weren't well off, which explains why i only had thee or four proper pm sets and the rest was factory rejects bought from flea markets in malta.
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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2016, 21:33:09 »
Sorry but this cracked me up. Star Wars has been a commercial juggernaut for the past 40 years. It has made the fortunes of Hasbro and Lego, the top two toy companies in the world. And as has already been said, with Disney's takeover and the film per year, Im positive it can keep going strong for the next forty, unless there's the Apocalypse or something like that.

On this point, just note that nobody quotes lines or reimagines scenes from the prequels, even less so from the recent offerings. Star Wars is dwindling.

This is pretty good though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9dUG3_KNA
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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2016, 21:46:39 »
On this point, just note that nobody quotes lines or reimagines scenes from the prequels, even less so from the recent offerings. Star Wars is dwindling.

If the prequels were lame, the last one was a piece of... (language)... you know. Unbelievably horrible. Lame I expected, but never thought it could be so bad.

But we did have The Clone Wars series, the best of all of it....

But it will never "dwindle". The merch from the original movies is STILL selling. For some reason.
(no, I am not a Star Wars fan. I just love (most of) The Clone Wars  ;D )

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2016, 21:50:24 »
But it will never "dwindle".

Everything dwindles, or dies.
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Re: Very disappointed!
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2016, 21:51:11 »
Everything dwindles, or dies.

Well... probably. But I won't live to see it.  :P