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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2014, 23:07:46 »
Great details and pictures for sure.  I get why it bothers some people.  These are things happening now as opposed to some long ago conflict.  Yeah, those were violent too, but I can't say I personally knew someone killed in the Civil War.  I wish I could say the same about Iraq.   On the other hand, Playmobil does reflect our world.  So a full blown modern war theme is out, but I think maybe a mystery figure or special of a modern soldier would be alright.  Let's face it, being a soldier is a profession hundreds of thousands of people are engaged in and a majority of them are not in a combat role. 
 

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 03:28:00 »
It looks great!  8-)
Very realistic and the base and vehicles go very well with Playmobil klickies, right scale.

So, what brand are the vehicles / base?
On FB I know someone with a dedicated page to this Afghanistan/Iraq-theme, he uses lots of customised Playmobil-figures together with the same or very similar vehicles (including choppers *) as you do.

*: not some butchers, but aircraft with rotorblades able to hover, land and take off vertically  :toot:

In case your klickies would end up in a high intensity conflict with a near-peer which requires air-superiority, gimme a call I'll send some F-22s  ;)  Sadly the A-10s are getting retired, so no close-air support anymore for the boots on the ground   ::)

Concerning playmo-wars:
I can understand Geobra concerning WWI and WWII as those wars have a direct and rather recent link with Germany's history, it are their fathers, grandfathers and greatgreatgrandfathers that started  those wars. And people in general don't like to see diroamas filled with Wehrmacht-soldiers, Waffen-SS troopers and Nazis. Hitler himself is often considered the anti-christ, and not without good reason. So, understandable Geobra doesn't want to see any of that (in public domain).

But: what about f.e. the British Zulu War, the US Civil War, the Naopleonic Wars, the Spanish Wars in Flanders and The Netherlands, .... , the crusades and the Siege of Jerusalem, the expansion-wars of the Roman Empire, and near the start of it all the butchering by Conan and other barbarians during the Stone-Age? Those battles and wars are often depicted as well with Playmobil in dioramas, and nobody gives a cry.
Of course in "ancient" times they didn't have automatic rifles or atomic bombs, horrible weapons indeed.
But, ever seen (or imagined) how a 17th-century sailor looks after he and the deck of his ship have been wrecked by scrapnel from canonfire? Or the corps of a knight, decapitated by the sword of his opponent?
To me it is quite the same, it doesn't matter in which era the conflict took place as long as one doesn't show (to a general public) the horrors of war but just depicts the playmobil soldiers and their gear.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 03:33:45 by Hadoque »

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2014, 13:40:44 »
Very seamless integration of Playmobil parts and non Playmobil parts.  This is quite the realistic and convincing diorama you've created.  Look forward to your UN vehicle  ;)

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2014, 22:24:37 »
i see more and more dios and customs with playmo that go in a direction i personaly don`t like. ww2 and this iraq dio are more in the military dio section. smiling playmofaces on a hummer ready to go to war ? not for me.

also i have to admit that this is 95% not playmobil and for me it is not a playmobil diorama.

sorry but this is my opinion.




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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2014, 23:41:52 »
smiling playmofaces on a hummer ready to go to war ? not for me.

But Roman Legionairs, Medieval knights and robbers, pirates, Redbeafs and Frogs, ACW-soldiers and cowboys, Asia-Dragon warriors, SWAT-snipers and bankrobbers, ...,  they all have smiles on their klicky-faces as well.
There is just a time-difference of the battles/wars they "fight" in.
Of course, the further you go back down history's path, the less chance it might upset people (as the ones who saw it happen are all long gone).

also i have to admit that this is 95% not playmobil and for me it is not a playmobil diorama.

That's true.
But the "Titanic" ( http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=9313.0 ), which so many people regard as a Playmobil custom-masterpiece, is also ca. 90% foreign material...

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2014, 09:03:56 »
 "custom masterpiece" is a costum made out different parts. so it is a custom.

no need to start a discussion - these are just different views.  :wave:


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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2014, 19:51:21 »
so it is a custom.

Yes, and a superb achievement, but not a Playmobil one.  ;)

no need to start a discussion

Agreed.  :wave:



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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2014, 13:48:21 »
Dear Friends,
I confess I am very upset with this whole discussion.
If you have not realized it's just a small base with modern military vehicles, which Playmobil does not manufacture
There is no war, shots, enemies or blood.
I see many dioramas here with parts that are not Playmobil and I don't see all this controversy.
I love dioramas WW1 and WW2 and my great-grandfathers and grandfathers fought in both.
I appreciate all returned alive, otherwise I would not be here.
As well said by Hadoque, I do not see much discussion about past wars, as well as on modern cops themes .
On the other hand, I love ACW and I see many dioramas with dead and hurt soldiers and nobody complains.
I love military themes and I will continue with my customizations.
Simply, I will no longer post here.
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Leonardo

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2014, 14:25:58 »
Dear Leonardo, I was a WW2 customizer n scratch-builder for many many yrs and I am envious of ur this diorama...please don't take it so badly..I do customize little bit of WW2 playmo but I share them elsewhere...respecting the wishes of the majority here...u hv good skills...share them here but with themes welcomed here...until n unless the majority shift...

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2014, 18:15:13 »
Please do not take offense... these are only the opinions of one or two people. I think these customs and pictures are very well done, personally. And the scale is absolutely perfect for playmobil. Of course this was an ugly period of world history, but so were many other periods that we all enjoy depicting. There is nothing gruesome or offensive in these pictures at all.

We all have our different tastes as far as how much of a diorama needs to be playmobil... personally I like to use only playmobil, but I still greatly enjoy the work others do that is not quite so purist. Some probably think my work would be better if I would use more non-playmo backgrounds to fill them out, so it's just a matter of taste. There's no reason for anyone to criticize anyone else for having too many non-playmobil items in their work.
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