New in 2012/2013.

[bonniebeth]

Ras said exactly what I meant over in the PCC!

[Ismene]

It's a monument! It's silly to pretend it doesn't exist in real life.

or just start making other religions as well, a better option in my opinion  and it opens up new markets and set ideas. There are plenty of sets to satisfy the atheist but we are very limited in the religions of the world

They've done some Ancient Egyptian stuff and things that could be seen as druid-ish. It would be awesome if they did some Greek/Roman gods. Noah is present in three major religions (and nearly every cultural in the world has a flood story). I would love to see more Old Testament figures.

The options for sets for modern religions are limited because of design feasibility and cultural acceptance. It's easier to offend people and do ''something wrong'' when trying to represent a religion with an entirely different cultural background. Joseph can wear bright red, which makes no sense given the period and his social status, and no one cares. They've already made some faux pas in the Native American sets; imagine how much more risk would be involved in specifically tackling modern religions. Hindu gods and even Buddha would be very challenging to represent in klicky form. They could do Buddhist monks, though they'd look random since there isn't an existing theme for them, unless you just want to throw them amongst the modern klickies. A klicky Muhammad would get them death threats. Klickies can't kneel, so a mosque is out. A rabbi would be interesting, as would Hanukkah sets.

Ultimately, from a business standpoint, they know Nativity sets, Noah's Ark, and St. Nick will sell because these are themes that have a long-standing tradition of being represented as toys in their main markets. It's not like they did the Last Supper. They're picking themes they know parents will buy.

For me personally, I say, bring it on! I want saints and nuns and Greek goddesses and monks and menorahs and churches and cathedrals and chapels and temples....

And while we're at it, pink nuns would be awesome. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_Adoration_Sisters

[bonniebeth]

All very good points Ismene. You're right, nearly every culture in the world has a flood legend, so it is not unique to Christianity. Granted the set depicts it in the way usually depicted by Christians, but that is the way it is familiar to the entire western world, and kids wouldn't relate to it otherwise. That traditional ark looks nothing like the Bible describes, anyway, it's just a popular fictionalized way to depict it in children's stories.

And you're right that Islam would be difficult to represent... they don't believe in making any sort of images of living things, as they are considered idols, so the whole idea would be offensive to their beliefs.

[Rasputin]

But then why not do political monuments as well, they exist or at least the ones that have not been destroyed? Wouldn't it also be silly to ignore them as well?  They are a part of the culture and history of a nation.  You see if a company only were producing one political parties symbols and they never complimented it with other ones, then claimed "oh yes we did, just look at this 1000 year old one for the lost city of Atlanta" it just becomes a political statement/advertising for one modern party.

I again am not against the symbol, just that it should be accompanied with other modern symbols that are of different backgrounds. You can not have yang with out yin. I personally want lots more religion,  just more diversity. Its similar to why I do not want only white klickies in my towns. There are people of all kinds and I want them all to be represented for a realistic world.

Yes every one has a story, I was talking to some professors the other night and a few gave me this elaborate alien story. An alien was genetically modified with some ape to make slave humans to mine gold. The humans would not listen so they scratched the plan. A large chunk of ice fell into the ocean and created a wave to cover the land. One alien told a lone human to build a boat as it knew the ice was melting and would slip off and make the wave. ....you are all familiar with the repetitive, boring, unimaginative stories 

[Bolingbroke]

You have to wonder what sort of person would complain about a cross symbol on a mountain, though. Honestly: don't people have better things to do with their lives? It's like those people who complain about crucifixes in classrooms, in Europe. What these people have to understand is that religion is not just about religion (as silly as that may sound). It is also about culture. And while I am not a particularly fervent Catholic, I am certainly proud of my Catholic heritage. It is what made me - and the continent I live in - what I am and what it is. I don't mind atheists, buddhists, hippies etc - they're all free to do whatever it is they do to get their kicks, but there are certain boundaries I do not cross and which I do not want others to cross. I am not going to a Muslim country and ask them to start removing their crescent symbols from atop their minarets, for eg - because it's not only their religion but also their culture. And I would like the same thing for Europe and the Christian religion. Now - I am not following what's going on over at the PCC because I haven't joined yet, so I am not really sure what's going on and whether PM has bowed to pressure to get these crosses removed. And lastly, I would like to point something out that relates to American members. Now: I absolutely love America, American people and the American way of life: last year I visited three times and loved each and every one of those trips. But there's a world of difference between America (and the outlook of American people) and Europe (and the outlook of Europeans. Sometimes it's difficult for Americans to fully understand and appreciate what is dear to us in Europe, and vice versa of course. And the Christian religion in its cultural form (as opposed to the plainly religious) - a cultural form that goes back two millenia - is one of them. There. I hope I haven't offended anyone this time around 

[tahra]

Personally, I find Noah's set offensive... though I never actually complained to playmobil.  Not that cross on the mountain.. and though I'm completely ok with their decision, considering the rest, I don't really understand it.

(as for cruxifixes in public places, if they're PUBLIC, with MY money, I'm against it - but OT, and better not go there.)

[Rasputin]

(as for cruxifixes in public places, if they're PUBLIC, with MY money, I'm against it - but OT, and better not go there.)

I think if its with Tax's it would be "OUR" money    I think the carrear politicians unfortunately take the "Its Mine" mentality 

[tahra]

I think if its with Tax's it would be "OUR" money    I think the carrear politicians unfortunately take the "Its Mine" mentality 

Yes, I meant with everyone's money, including mine. The law is SUPPOSED to be that the State has no religion. So, they should NOT be funding one.  But we're VERY OT...

Regarding the novelties, I'm a LOT more interested to finding out what's with those fairies bodies.. But apparently I'm the only one.................

[Rasputin]

Regarding the novelties, I'm a LOT more interested to finding out what's with those fairies bodies.. But apparently I'm the only one.................

what about? if they have the giant system x hole in their back?

[tahra]

what about? if they have the giant system x hole in their back?

I'm not even talking about their back! I mean those with the new skirts... the bodies seem the new skinny ones... but..  I can't figure it out. Maybe I just need glasses, as noone else seems to see anything. That could be it.