Helpful, or confusing?! 
Not confussing at all Alison! This morning I dug out the 4667 magician and compared his hatband colour with the jacket lapels colour of the 3742 ringmaster. they are the same, so the magician's hatband is the same as the hatband I am looking for. the 4230 is an awesome klicky and I have his too stashed with my favourite klickies, but I thought his was a darker red than the 3742. Anyway, thanks for the pic! Much appreciated!!
