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If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« on: July 08, 2010, 05:41:06 »
issue a royal guard for the city of London?

Or a SAMURAI for Kyoto of Japan?

They will sell great for not just the playmobil collectors but also the tourists.

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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2010, 06:42:45 »
Yeah, and a dutch cheese girl!!!
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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 06:43:27 »
Yeah, and a dutch cheese girl!!!
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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 07:40:21 »
issue a royal guard for the city of London?

Or a SAMURAI for Kyoto of Japan?

They will sell great for not just the playmobil collectors but also the tourists.

The Maltese Knight was originally issued to celebrate Valletta being Capital of Culture or something like that - I forget the exact term - and no doubt proved so popular, especially with the interest in the Knights of St John, that it continued in production in a slightly modified form.

As Valletta is European Capital of Culture in 2018, maybe there will be another unique figure then.
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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 14:12:35 »

4577 - Royal Guard

and the closest they produced for eastern cultures:
4554 - Ninja

4539 - Mandarin Prince






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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2010, 15:40:16 »
Playmobil got in trouble a few years ago when they produced the Mountie figure, without first checking with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.  It turned out that the RCMP had sold their image to Disney some years earlier, and that Playmobil had no right to use the image for their figure. I don't know if they got financially stung, but it was an embarrassment to them, and made them wary.

While I think it is a little sad to "sell out" to Disney in this way,  I realise that organisations have the right to market their uniforms, brands and images, built up over a number of years, to make a bit of extra money. Playmobil should have contacted the RCMP to clear their figure, and would have to do so with any other civil or military organisations whose uniforms they wanted to reproduce. They generally dislike doing this for their own reasons, and so they produce figures which are different enough to escape censure, and similar enough to be mistaken for the correct uniform.

The production of the DHL man with van, and the German rescue service whose initials I forget right now, show that they will and do sometimes produce close copies of real world organisation uniforms and vehicles by arrangement.


On a personal level I think Playmobil are insane NOT to bite the license bullet and get their product better known through producing one-off figures as suggested by Heronimus. They may have to give a percentage of the profits from those particular figures back to the licenser, but it would get the product in front of a wider audience, boosting sales of the rest of their range.

Herr Brandstatter may by blocking this move, which is either a good or bad decision depending on your point of view. It enables children (of all ages) to use more imagination in their play, and prevents the influx of "Twilight" and "Harry Potter" themes, a very good thing and in keeping with the original concept of Playmobil. It probably cuts down on potential profit for the Geobra company, but if profit is not your prime concern then why sacrifice your integrity?

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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 17:16:00 »
Yeah, and a dutch cheese girl!!!

 

what is this the girl with the long blond braiding hair?  ???
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 01:14:53 »
Thanks for this very informative reply!!!! :wave: So can we still order that red mounted police through DS? provided that we have the number and assuming they have called back thousands of them?

I agree with you on the licensed theme. You know, the Harry Porter and Starwars lego indeed look really bad, and they havd drifted away from their traditional all yellow bodies. However. Playmobil can do very well without drastic change from their traditional klicky design by simply giving them the right costumes. This would be very great to raise the popularity of playmobil among kids, and sell more non-licensed sets.

Playmobil got in trouble a few years ago when they produced the Mountie figure, without first checking with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.  It turned out that the RCMP had sold their image to Disney some years earlier, and that Playmobil had no right to use the image for their figure. I don't know if they got financially stung, but it was an embarrassment to them, and made them wary.

While I think it is a little sad to "sell out" to Disney in this way,  I realise that organisations have the right to market their uniforms, brands and images, built up over a number of years, to make a bit of extra money. Playmobil should have contacted the RCMP to clear their figure, and would have to do so with any other civil or military organisations whose uniforms they wanted to reproduce. They generally dislike doing this for their own reasons, and so they produce figures which are different enough to escape censure, and similar enough to be mistaken for the correct uniform.

The production of the DHL man with van, and the German rescue service whose initials I forget right now, show that they will and do sometimes produce close copies of real world organisation uniforms and vehicles by arrangement.


On a personal level I think Playmobil are insane NOT to bite the license bullet and get their product better known through producing one-off figures as suggested by Heronimus. They may have to give a percentage of the profits from those particular figures back to the licenser, but it would get the product in front of a wider audience, boosting sales of the rest of their range.

Herr Brandstatter may by blocking this move, which is either a good or bad decision depending on your point of view. It enables children (of all ages) to use more imagination in their play, and prevents the influx of "Twilight" and "Harry Potter" themes, a very good thing and in keeping with the original concept of Playmobil. It probably cuts down on potential profit for the Geobra company, but if profit is not your prime concern then why sacrifice your integrity?

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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 13:59:59 »
Thanks for this very informative reply!!!! :wave: So can we still order that red mounted police through DS? provided that we have the number and assuming they have called back thousands of them?

You could try, the number is 30 00 5970.

I would think part of the recall would have been to mince the figures and reuse the plastic in other figures. Only figures which had already been sold would have escaped the slaughter, which makes the Mountie a rare figure.

btw, the Mountie story came up a couple of years ago when Abbott Hamilton joined the board http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=1918.0

Richard knew all about it, but it was news to me at that time. As the licensing only occurred around 94/95, there are many other toy Mounti figures pre-dating the agreement. I notice you can still buy a build-a-bear Mountie uniform, so some companies do manage to come to an agreement with Disney to use the design.


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Re: If they have MALTESE KNIGHTS, why dont playmobil
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 07:14:38 »
A Maltese knight circa the Great Siege would be very easy to produce: a tunic like the last crusader but with the colours reversed, a feathered morion, arm armour, a rapier-style sword with diagonal belt, a ruff and voila - there you would have it  ::)
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