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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2016, 16:33:30 »
Hmm, I'm not sure how they'd go about naming these separate parts since they're always used together. It seems that Erik knows though. ;) Good luck.

Erik knows, lol.I ordered them seperately on several occasions.  ;)
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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2016, 16:39:12 »
Erik knows, lol.I ordered them seperately on several occasions.  ;)

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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2016, 16:45:11 »
Oh dear, I just looked at all these parts together

PlaymoDB Parts Containing "headdress, ladies"

and I have my names and pictures mixed up.  Actually it's Playmobil that has inconsistencies - let me see now.

Positively identified via instructions, are the following:
30 20 6762 is the green lower part of 4338. Its German name is "Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 07 7550 is the light yellow lower part of 3652. Its German name is "Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame".

30 07 8150 is the white pointy part appearing in both 3652 and 4338. Its German name is "Kegel-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 07 8160 is the yellow hanging part appearing in 3652. Its German name is "Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame".

30 20 6772 is the green hanging part appearing in 4338. Its German name is "Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame".

When 6324 - Medieval Family had an official spare parts list, these parts were included:
30 07 7540 ("Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame") (That's an old part, judging from its number.)
30 25 8293 ("Kegel-Spitzhaube-Dame")
30 26 2230 ("Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame")

So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil? That would mean that the naming (or numbering, I suppose) of the 4338 parts is wrong. If so, I'll rename the ones that don't appear in 4338, to match their German names, and re-colour and re-photo them to match the parts of whatever set they're in. In a really high percentage of cases, the German name is the same among parts of the same mold, but Playmobil does mess up occasionally. The instructions and official spare-parts lists are all I have to go on unless people who have ordered them, can confirm otherwise.




 

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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2016, 17:04:03 »


So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil? That would mean that the naming (or numbering, I suppose) of the 4338 parts is wrong. If so, I'll rename the ones that don't appear in 4338, to match their German names, and re-colour and re-photo them to match the parts of whatever set they're in. In a really high percentage of cases, the German name is the same among parts of the same mold, but Playmobil does mess up occasionally. The instructions and official spare-parts lists are all I have to go on unless people who have ordered them, can confirm otherwise.

Consider it confirmed, Heather!!!   ;) :)
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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2016, 23:23:02 »
Whew. I think I got it fixed now.

PlaymoDB Parts Containing "headdress, ladies"

They appear in these sets: Sets containing Spitzhaube parts

To make this game even more fun, I discovered that there are two versions of 7757 - Knight Family - one with a yellow hanging veil, one with a white one. I just added both veils to the inventory, and added a photo of the other version.
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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 00:03:54 »
Hats off to PM detectives and Heather, you've completed this investigation in style with your last revelation "two versions of 7757 - Knight Family",
....I'm sure our friends in KW are amazed to follow this trail too  :love:

btw, I thought GrahamB would have joined in....away?

hope we can have another joint investigation again  :)

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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2016, 09:33:34 »

btw, I thought GrahamB would have joined in....away?


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I started a reply, cheng, but realised the information in PlaymoDB was not correct (it is now!) and I had nothing else to go on. I ordered the child-sized ones from DS once. Glad this is sorted! Count me in on the next escapade....
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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2016, 13:11:08 »
So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil?

I would translate as follows (even if Playmobil sometimes mixes up in the official descriptions);

* lower part = "Spitzhaube"
(Contrary to Erik I would not call it "Tuch". A female historical cap or bonnet is named "Haube" in German. And "pointy" = "Spitz" in German)
* pointy part ("cone" in English) = "Kegel" in German
* hanging veil = "Tuch" in this context and better "Scheier" as that word is the exact translation for "veil".
« Last Edit: July 23, 2016, 13:17:29 by Hadoque »

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Re: PM parts detectives kindly verify lady's spitzhaube ETN?
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2016, 01:08:41 »
hey Hadoque.....just when the dust was supposed to have settled  ;D
..and having just burnt those couple of 'new' German terminology in my mind  :P

anyway, here's a nice red whatever I hope they will reissue some day