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Offline Limorrj

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2014, 03:41:48 »
Don't you think people who we severely affected by modern war would feel the same way. people had mothers, fathers brothers, sisters killed in modern war. In you situation they we friends. Would a Rio de Janeiro custom police force posted by a customized stirr up some issues with you even if they were not actively engaged in combat? Sex is a very normal behavior yet we, or at least the majority of members do not want to see klickies engaged in such behavior, and that is about love not killing. 

The historical sets are not about just the warriors who do the killing, there is the recent medical haycart to ballence it out ;D

The truth is that any subject can become controversial.
As I have posted before, they are not at war, it is just a base / outpost.
I hope that you have never had the experience of losing a friend with headshots, which one you had lunch with him every day, came home with him, was at your side in gunfights and the weekend before his death you were at the birthday party of his daughter.
First I think some people know the past to post certain things. Some friends are more than brothers, die defending you, fight by your side and don't leave your alone.
Honestly, to me this endless discussion is closed.
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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2014, 04:00:13 »
Don't you think people who we severely affected by modern war would feel the same way. people had mothers, fathers brothers, sisters killed in modern war.

People have great-great-greatgrandfathers who were "shot to pieces" in f.e. the US Civil War. So is/was that war less gruesome/upsetting then conflicts or wars of the 20th/21st century, because the widows and their children aren't here anymore to tell us face-to-face about the horrible details?
WWI from the past century was fought on tactics developped/used in the ACW (trenchwarfare f.e.).

When looking at the new Playmobil themes for this year, something I find more up for controversy then a modern-military custom by someone, is the fact that Geobra releases f.e. exclusive banker-figures (Sparkasse) and a Luxury Villa (sets 5574 + 5586) for the City-Life theme instead of a more standard family-house, just after many people in the US and countries in southern Europe lost their houses or had to sell them because of the big economic/financial crisis.
No problem though I suppose, because the unfortunate ones without a house probably don't have the means anymore to write a blog to complain and express their upsetness to the world.
And a family living in their car is of course a less gruesome sight then a soldier with f.e. a blown-off leg. But are they so much better off? From a European (and thus too socialist/wellfare-equipped, some woud say) viewpoint, I'm not so sure. And luckily I didn't have to fight myself (great respect for those who did/do) and so my leg isn't blown off by an IED, but I'm not certain if I'd prefer to spend a large part of the rest of my life living in a shelter or a car, over loosing a leg. (Of course if it were both legs, that would incnrease the degree of reflection.)

Economics and finances can also be very disruptive ways of warfare, and are becoming more important in our global day and age. No immediate need to send an army anymore, just steadily shift the economic/financial base of a country to another place. No more dead soldiers on Western battlefields (that would look a bit too horrible on youtube), just millions of unemployed and a few courageous streetprotesters, more easily controllable.
Keep your airfore and navy though, just in case you'd need military power after all, and rebalance them for a possible regional confilict in the vast and rising Asia-Pacific region.
Why is cyber becoming so important? Besides military and civilian espionage and intel-gathering, cyber is also evolving into an economic warfare-tool as powerful as the (military) atomic bomb was in 1945.
Meanwhile and for domestic control, keep the folks with money happy (but within your expanding oversight) with the newest tablets, smartphones, etc. Oh, and give them Google-glasses the sooner the better, so you'd not only know where they are every second of the day, but also what they're looking at. George Orwell must be laughing... or crying.

But I'm drifting off-topic here.  ::)


Sex is a very normal behavior yet we, or at least the majority of members do not want to see klickies engaged in such behavior

Of course, we (or at least the majority) would be shocked to see normal human behaviour being expressed with toys.  And certainly we (or at least the majority) don't want innocent kids to find out accidently (and too soon?) what life is really like, weither it is about sex or war. But meanwhile, life finds out everything about them on FB  ;D .

The historical sets are not about just the warriors who do the killing, there is the recent medical haycart to ballence it out ;D

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Re: USMC e US Army - Outpost and Vehicles - Afghanistan and Iraq
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2014, 04:25:08 »
Leonardo posted while I was busy typing my post above  :-[

The truth is that any subject can become controversial.
Exactly.

the experience of losing a friend with headshots, which one you had lunch with him every day, came home with him, was at your side in gunfights and the weekend before his death you were at the birthday party of his daughter.

My deepest respect and sympathy for anyone who has to deal with such an experience.
And I can only admire the comradeship between brothers-in-arms, whichever side or country they belong to.


Imho, seeing, knowing and understanding how terrible conflict/war is and what others experienced in it, will avoid or at least postpone future conflicts/wars.
Here in Belgium, this year it is exactly 100 years ago since the horrible WWI began (Flanders Fields). I hope there will be enough public attention in the media about it, to remember (especially younger) people what that was like and to keep the chances that hopefully it will never happen again.

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