Blacksmith purchase question

[Wesley Myers]

ohhh that guy. I know him very well. He has been doing this for years. 

I agree with Mike though, only fools and ignorant ones can be tricked by sellers like these. (no disrespect meant ;-)  )

See it very often, selling complete items, but obviously missing parts or having wrong accesories or klickies..... i'm still hunting for some very hard to find sets, but most of them are junk or false 

The real meaning of ignorant is to not know.  However, vernacular English has come to mean this term as being stupid.

Regardless, no one knows anything until they have been taught.

To blame consumers who get conned by this type of "person" is like calling those who do not have a high literacy rate stupid. 

Recent stats have stated around 25%of adults can read properly read newspaper headlines.

Are these a 25% we can, in good conscience, prey upon?

I've been ridiculed on this site too for pointing out auctions that are deceptive and deceitful.

In a way it's like the professor who is so used to his subject matter he can't comprehend why his students don't get what he is lecturing about as HE is the one who is so far removed from the real situation.  He just has to stop, step back and remember what it was like when he first started to learn at the same level. 

[mike1003]

I've been ridiculed on this site too for pointing out auctions that are deceptive and deceitful.

and again, there is nothing what this supports. As long he says: the truck is vintage (well its a vintage style or do u see a truck made like that these days??) and no fantasy set numbers.. all is ok.. the only thing whats not ok is with the schooner..

[mike1003]

But we should stop to argue about that. For me its ok when the Seller does a bit profit. Its like 10% ebay fees, 5 % paypal fees etc

when the item costs 20 euro in buying and he is selling for 40 euros.. profit is maybe 10 euros.. (its paid in advance - risk of not selling - et..) and its not like he sells 3333333333..


target and other shops do the same.. buying it cheaper and sell to retail prices etc.. there is no difference..

Maybe it sounds hard and harsh.. but again, u dont need to buy it

[bonniebeth]

I have no problem whatsoever with ebay sellers making a profit. All business is based on making profit, of course! I just have a problem with people who make a profit by dishonest means. And purposely trying to deceive those who don't know any better into thinking they are getting something they are not, is dishonest.

I'd like to point out that many hardened criminals blame their victims for being "stupid enough to be preyed upon." One should be very careful with that type of thinking.

[tonguello]

I have no problem whatsoever with ebay sellers making a profit. All business is based on making profit, of course! I just have a problem with people who make a profit by dishonest means. And purposely trying to deceive those who don't know any better into thinking they are getting something they are not, is dishonest.

I'd like to point out that many hardened criminals blame their victims for being "stupid enough to be preyed upon." One should be very careful with that type of thinking.

  my thoughts exactly

[PlayMoto]

Unfortunate choice of words if no disrespect is meant.    However, when one learns about a scam and it becomes familiar, it is easy to forget that it was once effective.  I'll notice it if I see it again.  I've bought all of my Playmobil on eBay and encountered nothing like this.  I've bought from many, many sellers.  This has never been a problem.     

My statement was meant in general and not personal. When it was personal, that would be disrespectfull.

Don't forget, i'm Dutch and i, but i think also the Dutch in general are pretty straight forward. We say what we think or feel, and don't hold back.
I realise that cultural differences may cause some of my remarks being understood in a different manner as i meant. I'll keep that in mind next time ;-)

[Rhalius]

quite familiar with it, being dutch as well.

Things tend to turn ugly on dutch forums far more often than I'd like.

[bhellman75]

My statement was meant in general and not personal. When it was personal, that would be disrespectfull.

Don't forget, i'm Dutch and i, but i think also the Dutch in general are pretty straight forward. We say what we think or feel, and don't hold back.
I realise that cultural differences may cause some of my remarks being understood in a different manner as i meant. I'll keep that in mind next time ;-)

Your point is well made.  I must remember that we are from many cultures on this site, which is really quite exciting and nice.