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General => Trains! => Topic started by: tigana123 on December 03, 2011, 01:02:41
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I'm somewhat to new to PM trains, just recently bought 4010 in E-bay. I wonder why PM has not released any new trains the last couple of years... Any ideas?
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I think they didn't sell well and the recession made matters worse. :'(
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I'm somewhat to new to PM trains, just recently bought 4010 in E-bay. I wonder why PM has not released any new trains the last couple of years... Any ideas?
too expensive .... and nobody buys them, this is sad because the company always had trains through the years :( :(
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Yes, price was a problem and in the UK there were problems with RC frequencies or something of that sort.
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There were some rumors at klickywelt that there'll be new train-related sets in the second half of 2012 but no further information about what they'll contain or look like. In 5 or 6 weeks we'll know more...
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I am sure trains will make a glorious comeback. Trains will always be a popular toy and playmobil has created some magnificnet sets like the 4052 and western train !!!
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There were some rumors at klickywelt that there'll be new train-related sets in the second half of 2012 but no further information about what they'll contain or look like. In 5 or 6 weeks we'll know more...
It would be very nice if there were.
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i love the 4034 set. in fact i bought one from italy at 450 euros. so i hope i didn't lose my money, if they decide to open a new production line. in any case, they are bautiful, especially in a diorama. i prefer those electical though. May be my age....
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i love the 4034 set. in fact i bought one from italy at 450 euros. so i hope i didn't lose my money,
450Eu sounds quite a lot. Hope it was new at least. I'm building a transportation theme with airport and harbor so the train was a must ;D
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450 is a lot indeed . A very good complete set in box should go for 300-350 tops i reckon. 450 is a bit pricey .... :o :o :o :o :o :o
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450 is a lot indeed . A very good complete set in box should go for 300-350 tops i reckon. 450 is a bit pricey .... :o :o :o :o :o :o
What is the going rate for the Steam Engine 4052?
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What is the going rate for the Steam Engine 4052?
a mint boxed one , played with but very good condition round 300euros . and its the best train of them all . powerful and stylish with three lights front and rear , simply superb :love: :love: :love: :love:
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i know it was a lot, and it wasn't new, even though was stated like new, but from photo i judged it in excellent conditions and it was! but the seller was 200 kms away from me and spedition cost was 10euros. and it was professional (got the receipt too!). so the set was pratically new.
I wish we can see more cars... there are only 3 for one in posession of 4034
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of all the g scale trains i think the playmobil ones are the best!!!
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a mint boxed one , played with but very good condition round 300euros . and its the best train of them all . powerful and stylish with three lights front and rear , simply superb :love: :love: :love: :love:
What about a brand new one? One of my contacts found one but it's $399!
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What about a brand new one? One of my contacts found one but it's $399!
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Thast what i have been saying 400dollars = 300 euros .. thats how much you pay for a boxed mint one. Savvas i am afraid you paid a bit too much but i wouldnt lose my sleep over it .
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Thast what i have been saying 400dollars = 300 euros .. thats how much you pay for a boxed mint one. Savvas i am afraid you paid a bit too much but i wouldnt lose my sleep over it .
yes i know that but i was looking for this for a very long time... 20 years ago. but now i have it. that's why i sleep in peace...
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Why not trains.... the same reason so many other themes die off, no one is buying them
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I was talking to a Playmo rep the other day and they indicated (off the record of course) that there might be another holiday train for next Christmas... so there may be some hope... :crossed:
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I really hope they come out with another western train. I would soooo love to see it make a comeback. Somehow I don't see that happening any time soon, though. :(
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Ok, so trains didn't sell well. Why would Playmobil bring out any more?
Why would they bring back old themes/sets if they didn't work
Sometimes some great things should just be left as history, left to die, left to fight it out between each other for survival.
A lot of us say, oh, we want this bringing back, and that bringing back.
Let them be. They have had their time, and now they are gone. If they didn't sell well, then that just makes them harder to get. We can't turn back time, as much as we all might want it.
We can't get back lost relatives or pets
The reproduction will never superceed the original
Give those old boys and girls the honour they deserve
Damo
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I think a holiday train could sell quite well... but they would need to do a few things...
1 Just the Loco and a Caboose
2 No RC... just a battery compartment with an on and off switch... or "Manual Powered"
3 Sell it at Toys R US at the $100 price range... they always have a train at Christmas in the $50-$100 range... might as well be Playmo..
Now I will speak blasphemy... since the US would be the biggest market for such a Christmas train... make it in China...
With that last point in mind I would prefer if the train ended up being a regular Playmo 123 train with a cute little 123 Santa... or an "Elf sized" playmo train that was compatible with track but didn't come with any.
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I wish they would re-release the 4085 set world-wide :)
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I'd prefer a new western train.. it just offers more play possibilities with train robberies and all that.
They just need to make sure to reach train enthusiasts. Arent there any hobby stores for model trains? might be good to sell the playmobil train theme there as well, and at railroad museums and such. That theres a section here specific for just trains alone speaks for itself, since no other playmobil theme has its own section.
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when was that construction set released? ??? 8-)
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Not sure when but I saw a new one in E-bay sold for 240Eu the other day...
Also 4017 new sold for 300Eu !!!!
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when was that construction set released? ??? 8-)
This set was released in fall 2008, it was a special set offered from the german toy cooperation "Idee & Spiel" for a retail price of approx. 150,-€.
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This set was released in fall 2008, it was a special set offered from the german toy cooperation "Idee & Spiel" for a retail price of approx. 150,-€.
I bet they have piles left, just open up the market to the US and give us a chance ;D
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Part of the problem there is different electrical standards and plug types.
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Part of the problem there is different electrical standards and plug types.
This used to be the case, Tim, when the power source for the trains was a transformer running off mains electricity, but now the trains are battery powered and RC controlled it isn't; the buyer provides the batteries and the battery charger.
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I find the LGB ( electric ) based Playmobil trains of superb quality in all respects . The 14V motors are not the most powerfull ( comapring to 24V) but very good still. The 4052 i think is one of the best looking G scale trains ever, might not have the detailing of G scale trains by e.g LGB but is a superb looking very well propotioned train and by far my favourite train , with the two motors also is quite fast !!!!
Playmobil over the years created an impressive number and variety of different engines ( the wetsern train is superb looking also i should add ) and many wagons of various types and many supporting sets such as the steck train station 4300 which for a steck hardcore enthusiast like me is one of the best steck sets of all time if you ask me . i think all steck houses should have these bases as the 4300.... Using the LGB tracks which are of superb and the best of qualith with very good conductivity brass alloy was expensive but associated the playmo locos with the VERY BEST OF OUTDOOR TRAINS. The coming of the RC trains and the plastic tracks have the benefit of lower costs but i think they are far far inferior in all respects, even the plastic of recent models is far inferior that the plastic used in the old trains. Given the clientele of these old trains I am confident to say i think playmobil used the very best of plastic they used ever for their old trains
I am also new to trains as apart from a western train and some western wagons i bought in the early 90s , i bought my trains in 2010/2011 and i have over 85metres of LGB track. There are truly superb and i would love to see playmobil going back to LGB and not these cheap plastic but i doubt that this will happen as Maerklin who bought LGB wouldnt benefit from licencing these tracks again....
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I doubt if Playmobil will ever go back to trains which get their power supply via the mains as they are in the children's toy market. Interestingly, some LGB sets now have on a recommended age of 15+.
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Which shows you how long it's been since I bought a train :snowman:
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The "L" company seems to do well with trains. Not sure why PMB is keeping away from them.
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Lego trains are much smaller (hence cheaper i assume)
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The "L" company
"L" company ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: are we scared to say lego ?
i think luis is right :rudy: :rudy:
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Lego is yet to release a western train though, they only release modern trains.
And I gues that for train lovers the extra details from playmobil might be appreciated.
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The "L" company seems to do well with trains. Not sure why PMB is keeping away from them.
Because they are expensive and very big and so don't sell well. Size is maybe an important factor in why PM trains don't sell well. Looking at lego.com, there are some trains there which are about the same price as PM ones - e.g. £133 - but PM trains are big! I've just been trying to set up a layout and it's difficult, even though we have large rooms. The rather basic layout comes out at something like 6 feet by 8 feet or a bit more.
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yeah, setting a layout with a PM train is difficult, you need a lot of room - but when people manage to make it the result is amazing! :love:
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Lego is yet to release a western train though, they only release modern trains.
The Lego Toy Story 3 theme has a western train. http://www.lego.com/ToyStory/en-us/Products/Default.aspx#7597
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Well, I was a toystore manager for 3 years and every christmass I would buy-in three or four trains and they would all sell by the time of christmass. It sells just aswell as other sets in the same price range (princess castle, dollhouse,...) This naturally doesn't not compare to the multiple other sets that we sold, but I don't think trains were advertised very well Also Playmobil needs to release a sub 100 euro trainset. It would sell like hot cakes on a coldwinter night. A hunderd euro seems to be the magic number for a lot of people. More then that never seems to sell greatly. This should release a set including a single wagon passenger train or tram, a circle of tracks and a small perron. People should be able to buy a similar non-motorised version (much cheaper) and a bigger station that fits with the perron included. This would surely sell. They need to realise that kids like a lot of details and different figures. But with the trains or wagons none are ever included
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The Lego Toy Story 3 theme has a western train. http://www.lego.com/ToyStory/en-us/Products/Default.aspx#7597
We have that train and it is just a push toy, trains need motors, woo hooo :rock:
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Oh is it just a push toy? I haven't looked at it closely, as it's L@#$. :P
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Oh is it just a push toy? I haven't looked at it closely, as it's L@#$. :P
That method of Lego could be also a concept for Playmobil:
Cheaper Trains (< 100,- €) without motors to push and motors, controller etc. to combine (to build in later).
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Yes, I have often thought a non-working train might be a nice addition. :-[ I know to any train buff, that is heresy. But I'm not so much into a working train as I am a nice western train to be used as a background in dioramas and photos. It would satsify a lot of western fans without breaking the bank.
And if you could later add motors and controllers, as you suggested, then it could satisfy both needs.