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Title: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Customizer on September 09, 2006, 22:21:21: Hi,

here are the 4409 Saint Martin from VEDES !!

Who was Saint Martin ??
Look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Martin_of_Tours (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Martin_of_Tours)

ENJOY !

gentle greets

Andi
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Captain Henry on September 09, 2006, 23:19:16: Thanks for the pictures Andi! Another set I have added to my MUST HAVE list...
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Richard on September 10, 2006, 01:39:40: GREAT SET, ANDI !!!

Thanks !!! And, I agree with Cap'n Henry ... That's a "must have" set !!!

Thanks again, Andi ...

And, all the best,
Richard
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: cachalote on September 10, 2006, 01:50:20: st. martin was already mentioned in another thread started by customizer - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=765.0.
my first reaction was of shock - i really didn't like this new "catholic" direction playmobil was taking.
i still feel the same way and i am still sure that if you can picture a playmobil saint sebastian you will understand my doubts - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Sebastian
do you think there is a connection betwen this and the fact that the new pope is german? (a small conspiracy theory will no doubt help to spice the replies).[/font]
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Richard on September 10, 2006, 02:05:26: Hello, Pedro ...

I'm beginning to think that Sebastian was NOT one of your favourite saints ... :lol:

Hmmm ... A german conspiracy theory ... ;)

Now? Or, in the 1930s? Or, continously since the 1930s? Or, maybe even before? ... :lol:

Ooops ... We are NOT supposed to discuss politics or religion here at PF ... So, as a moderator, I must caution you against going there !!! Sorry ... 0)

But, it is interesting to think about it privately ... :)

All the best,
Richard

Changed I to I'm (typo) in first line ...
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Little Jo on September 10, 2006, 10:01:32: No, I don't think that there is conspirancy behind. ;D

In Germany it is practice that children in the kindergarten are having a so called lantern parade on November 11th, the day of St. Martin. In preparation to this they are told the story of St. Martin (only -- as far as I remember -- a short variant of dividing his coat) which is given as a example of mercy. They are also doing some handicrafts in building their own lanterns (normally from paper and/or metal foil showing some patterns or sceneries). When it became dark they are making all together (the children with their parents and the kindergarten staff) a small parade around in the neighborhood.

(http://www.schaefersee-grundschule.de/vk1foto4.jpg)
(Photo taken arbitrary from Google search result [looking for "Laternenumzug"]: http://www.schaefersee-grundschule.de/vk1foto4.jpg)

When I remember back to my childhood this was less a religious event, but more some special activity within the kindergarten (doing the handicrafts and walking along with the lanterns and candles together with pals from the kindergarten in the evening hours and sing the St. Martin song). -- Nevertheless all children in Germany (I assume) know who St. Martin is (i.e. the one who divided his coat ... I'm not sure if they know details like that he became later bishop or was a Roman).

So I don't think, that PM is going heavily into relegious topics, but just mirroring "daily topics" (at least from those here in Germany). In the same way like christmas, which is a religious holiday but has impacts on daily non-religious live in Christian marked countries.
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: cachalote on September 10, 2006, 12:33:11: thanks for the explanation little jo.
i can now understand why playmobil produced st. martin - it's a german regional thing.

you are right, richard, religion must be kept out of this forum - i am sorry.
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Richard on September 10, 2006, 13:47:03: No apology necessary, Pedro. In fact, your comments brought about a great explanation from Jochen !!!
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: Little Jo on September 10, 2006, 14:00:49: Quote from: Richard on September 10, 2006, 13:47:03
No apology necessary, Pedro. In fact, your comments brought about a great explanation from Jochen !!!

;)

I got the impression that some explaining sentences are necessary here to prevent from missunderstands, although religion really should be kept out of here.
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: scan on September 10, 2006, 14:47:39: In the Netherlands we also have a St Martin day we call it (sint maarten) ;D

Altough most of the folks in the Netherlands are not catholic.
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: cachalote on September 10, 2006, 20:01:00: we also have a "são martinho" in portugal, the same as saint martin, also with november 11th as his day.
it is traditionally linked with the production of wine and the eating of roasted chestnuts.
when the weather is hot, we call it the saint martin summer.
nobody here knows his story, though.
the pagan parties just have a tendency to overcome the meaning of the saint that overlaps them.
it seems that in germany this is not so.
thanks again little jo.
:)
Title: Re: 4409 Saint Martin VEDES !
Post by: playmofire on September 10, 2006, 22:15:56: In the UK, St Martin's day is also 11th November. It was a time for fairs (the buying and selling type, not funfairs) and the time when farmworkers were hired for the coming year and, in mediaeval times, when the cattle were slaughtered and the meat slated to preserve it through the winter.