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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: Sir Pleamo on August 17, 2011, 16:02:15
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…today the postman has brought me the whole bundle of the brand new pirat sets! So I decided to make a review of some of the sets!
Here now I will review one of the new ships:
5140 – Rotrock-Kannonensegler (Redcoats cannon boat)
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The cover and box design of these new pirate sets is really nice and looks quite modern. Unusal is that the classical blue is only at the bottom of the box. The nice sunset feeling covers this blue from the middel over the top of the box (comparable to the new box design as those of the Top Agent sets)...
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…but what’s in the box
First the hull parts. The hull is based on the 4444 set but the blue railings give the whole ship a much bigger appearance. This ship class can be called to be between the 4444 ships and those of the Schooners. For customers it might be interesting that the railings and the masts are compatible with these 4444 hull type.
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…the hull parts aside, you will find three bags in the box, too.
The first one contains the sails, mast, and some smaller parts for use with them. Also the construction sheet and the decals are in that bag.
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The second bag includes mainly the cannon and helm parts.
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In the third bag the Klickys are in. There are two Klickys: one redcoad soldier and one officer.
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The appearance of the ship is very nice. The sails are not from the same material than most of the older ships but have a more paper-like touch. But all in all they do their job very well. The decals look a little cheap. The coloration is not as nice as it could be, so I decided not to use them and replace them with hand-made ones. So on the picture I have left them off.
The anchor and its chain looks great but are plastic, not metal. I guess the good old times are over and we have to accept that metal anchors will not be reintroduced soon!
The helm is a little bit strange, better to say not the helm (it is the same as used in nearly every ship) but the coloration. The yellow do not fit very well to the rest of the ship. The blue corsair ship (e.g. 3860) has a quite similar color combination but there the yellow color is more present in the whole design. Here in this set the yellow helm looks like a contaminant.
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The Klickys are very nice but the soldier has an imprinted belt instead of those older redcoats. The best within the Klickys is the officer’s hair. WOW I really need a lot of these hairs, they are perfect!
The new rapier is very nice too. It is made from some soft plastic (a little bit like rubber), so it has a real rapier feeling!
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All in all I really like this set and this one ship will not be the last one in my fleet! The price (about 20 EURO) is really acceptable and makes the set not only a nice set for collectors and customers but also for parents and their children (yes, I have heard about the fact that sometimes even kids are interested in Playmobil, strange thing, isn’t it?)
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I love this set!!! And I will get it as soon as I can! :)
Thanks for the review Sir Pleamo!
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Sir Pleamo, you're so lucky to have the new pirates :love:! I agree that the officer's hair is fantastic! Excellent review. By the way, your pictures, especially the first one, look very professional like something from a catalog!
Ace :brownhair:
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Thanks for the review. This is on my have to have list when its available.
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VERY nice! That could be my first vintage boat.
BTW, how many did you get (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/luwerner/gif/hmm-1.gif)?
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Great review Sir Pleamo!! It has me itching...must resist the Pirate them!!
Thanks for sharing!!
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I just looooove this boat!! the extra blue parts make it so awesome!! and the klickies are great!!!
Thnak you for this great review and pics Sir Pleamo!!!
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i like the officer, but i prefer the torso of the old redcoats with real straps instead of the painted ones.
The boat (ship?) is cute...I'm trying to reconcile it with its true-life counterpart, but what would that be? A cutter? a gunboat (which is what the 4444 corresponds with)? Or a miniature ship?
I do love the officer's new hair, and I am really happy about the union jack flag (I shall transplant it onto my 3050 post haste). The new sword is interesting, but I wonder why they chose to give the officer a rapier instead of a cutlass? Did officers of this time era carry rapiers? I've never noticed that before.
Paintscheme is a bit fisherpricey IMO. I would most likely customize the colours to be more realistic, including, as you mention, recolouring the helm. The sails should replaced with cloth and include some rigging.
Great review! I must have this boat either way! (is this avail in US yet?)
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Great review!
Another one for the list. I also find the officer's hair great - thanks for the detailed pics - ridiculous as Hades (as I find all those "types" of hair, in movies and such), but GREAT!
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Great review, I just luuuuv that colour! :love: :love: :love:
Damo :)
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BTW, how many did you get (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/luwerner/gif/hmm-1.gif)?
Well at the moment I have each box of the pirate theme twice, just to get a first impression, but after some customizing I will integrate 4 to 5 of these ships in my fleet I guess...
i like the officer, but i prefer the torso of the old redcoats with real straps instead of the painted ones.
Yes, me too! But a very interesting issue is, that there is a new torso-design but without this printed straps. But this Klicky is not in any of the new pirate sets but only in the German DS-Store (#6229 (http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=6229&cgid=Ds_Piraten)). That is really a useful one! (Look the attached pic)
The boat (ship?) is cute...I'm trying to reconcile it with its true-life counterpart, but what would that be? A cutter? a gunboat (which is what the 4444 corresponds with)? Or a miniature ship?
That is really hard to say, but the 4444 can easily be transformed into early buccanian assault boat (without a mast but with oars). (Maybe I will take some pics of my version soon)
(is this avail in US yet?)
No at the moment it is only available in Germany (and maybe in some but only European countries like netherlands, etc.)
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Another one for the list.
Oh, btw, the box in the background is your box! ;D ;D ;D ..so you are back, right? I will contact you soon!
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Oh, btw, the box in the background is your box! ;D ;D ;D ..so you are back, right? I will contact you soon!
:woohoo: What a pretty pretty box! :love: Thank you!
Yep, dead tired but back.
I emailed you today!
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Nice review... and nice ship. Thank you for reviewing !
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Thanks for this review. I love the wig of these new klickies, though the torso of the older ones are indeed better. By any chance they have the part number of the wig?? Guess many playmofriends are seeking after it. :wave:
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By any chance they have the part number of the wig?? Guess many playmofriends are seeking after it. :wave:
Oh yes! It's a MUST, isn't it?
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Thank you for the review.
The highlights of the new set are the figures, especially that wig, but the downside is the colour scheme, which I suppose can be fairly easily corrected but is still a let down.
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By any chance they have the part number of the wig?? Guess many playmofriends are seeking after it. :wave:
It's a pitty, but the wig has no part number for its own! We all know what that means: you can get it only by buying the whole Klicky! :(
btw, I guess the rest of the part numbers will be at playmodb.org soon. I just have sent them to Heather.
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It's a pitty, but the wig has no part number for its own! We all know what that means: you can get it only by buying the whole Klicky! :(
btw, I guess the rest of the part numbers will be at playmodb.org soon. I just have sent them to Heather.
Thanks....maybe we should order the whole klicky. 8-)
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after some customizing I will integrate 4 to 5 of these ships in my fleet I guess...
How big is your fleet? Maybe you could share some pictures with us of it? ;D
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:thanks: thanks for the review sir pleamo.
:) this seems like a very nice ship indeed.
;) maybe in a future ds poll we can suggest a crew of sailor to man it (instead of these red-coats).
red-coats were never used in the royal navy to man ships - as marines they only fired their arms form the rigging, helped the cannon crews and conducted amphibious attacks.
they knew nothing about sailing ships - even the smaller ones.
:) they were essentially "floating" landsmen.
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Now that I have this set in my hands I can say that it is definately one of the most (if not the most) beautiful little ship playmobil has ever made :love: :love: :love: I'm in LOVE!!!
Regarding the redcoats... I am working on a project to place sailors on His Magesty's ships ;D
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i wish someone with access to euro-side DS can order a whole bunch of union jack flags for me! I think I love this set alone for the awesome flag!!!
btw, is it me, or are the spars "chubbier" looking than regular playmobil ship spars? They look a bit swelled ala fisherprice again.... did playmobil lower the recommended age for children on their more recent sets? The original 4444 ship is for ages 3+. I rwonder if they have "dumbed down" some sets to appeal to a wider age range (and market) of kids? Because realistically, even though playmobil is obviously made for kids, with all the detail and tiny parts to mitigate, it seems its actually suited better for older kids/adults IMO. When I let my 4 and 5 year old kid/nephews/neices play with ships or castles, they actually end up losing all the bits and destroying beautiful setups (and sometimes break parts like flag poles, hull ornaments, railings, etc...).
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It's a nice set, I picked one up this morning.
Bigger than I thought it would be, plenty of space too. It could make a very nice merchant vessel since there arent really any good positions for cannons.
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And here's a picture of what it could be like as a merchant vessel.
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac337/Rhalius/playmobil013.jpg)
Personly, I see much more play potential in it this way than as the very small redcoat ship.
The merchant and his companion and dog could have all sorts of adventures on the seas, dodging pirates while delivering goods to the soldiers.
They really should make a large soldier ship sometimes, only the pirates seem to be getting the big ships.
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I like how the blue barrel comes into full play with colors of the vessel.
8-)
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Oddly enough they only included a red barrel with it.
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Odd indeed but the complementary color. I prefer you're choice of nlue :)
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Rhalius, I like your view of this little ship!! It certainly offers more potential this way :yup:
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The yellow wheel on the 5140 looks kiddish, I've changed them to brown ones on mine.
(the yellow was even brighter then the yellow wheel on the 3860-blueblack pirates schooner/sloop)
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The yellow wheel on the 5140 looks kiddish, I've changed them to brown ones on mine.
(the yellow was even brighter then the yellow wheel on the 3860-blueblack pirates schooner/sloop)
Oh now you got me beating myself for wanting to do a new DS order for such wheels...
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Thanks for the review, Sir Pleamo, and for your merchant interpretation of the boat, Rhalius. :)
I'm really looking forward to the release of this set in the US. The blue raised bow and stern and extra sails really turn this gunboat into an attractive vessel. Personally, I think the stickers look okay and the yellow wheel brings out the yellow in them. I plan to use one or two of these boats as French naval gunboats that would be perfect for coastal patrols.
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I picked up one of these this week in the US, but have no idea how long it's been out. Cost me $35 from a local toyshop, but you might find it cheaper at a bigger store.
It's a nice vessel, a very welcome addition to the middel range of ship sizes, it's just a shame Playmobil choose to put bright colors in where they don't belong. I think they've all been mentioned but the colors I object to are:
red barrel - should be wood colored
yellow wheel - should be wood colored
red soldiers (Marines) - let's have some actual Naval personnel. A blue coated officer with white trousers & black shoes, any lowly sailor to steer the ship
Grey wig ? Wigs worn in Britian were white, not grey.
The printing on my soldier was already damaged due to loose bagging, very annoying, fortunately I'm, not going to use him with this ship anyway.
The fleur-de-lys on the stickers would be more appropriate for a French ship then a British one.
The Union Jack lacking the St Patrick's cross is correct for the period (1606-1801). Odd that they can get this detail corerct and so many other things wrong.
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Rhalius, that looks great as a merchant ship! You're definitely right about lots of play value. I bought one about a month ago, now I just need the fortress. ;D
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thanks, it really is a wonderfully versatile ship, it has a great shape.