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Creative => Customs Gallery => Ships & Vehicles => Topic started by: playmofire on May 01, 2009, 00:40:29
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I may not be correct in the designation of this fire engine as a TLF24, maybe Jochen could help me with the correct name. Meanwhile, on with the details.
This is a powerful pump which also acts as a foam tender. It carries a crew of two (the TLF8s and the TLF16 carry crews of 8) and will often operate with the water carrier/bulk foam carrier which can be seen here:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=220.0
As can be seen from the first photo, there is no front-mounted pump and, unlike the other pumps there is a roof-mounted water/foam monitor.
The equipment carried in the right locker is different from the other pumps, consisting of a case containing hydrants, hose couplings and connectors and spare branches for foam and water.
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The next two photos show the major foam branches in use. The first is designed to spread a blanket of foam, for example, when wanting to carpet a flammable liquid before it catches fire. The second foam branch is designed to project a stream of foam.
On the top of the body, as well as the built-in monitor there are stored two ground monitors which can be used to project water on to a fire without the need for a firefighter to hold the branch. This is useful where it is too dangerous to approach a building because it is structurally unsound but or where large quantities of water are required to be pumped on a fire for long periods of time. On the roof there are also two hose reel carriers and four lengths of suction hose.
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The rear of the machine is the business end, as it were, with a powerful pump fitted which has three inlets and four outlets, plus the roof-mounted monitor.
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Lastly, the left side of the appliance and the left locker, showing the cans of foam carried.
Lastly, an aerial view of it working flat out with two foam branches and two ground monitors in use.
Thank you for looking, and I hope you found the thread interesting.
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I may not be correct in the designation of this fire engine as a TLF24, maybe Jochen could help me with the correct name.
As far as I can see, you're absolutely right; it's a TLF24. BTW the "new" construction unimog (4046 (http://www.playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4046)) would be a good basis for a TLF8 custom (cf. here (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:TLF8W.jpg&filetimestamp=20071211201116)).
Anyway a great custom. I like especially the back operation control where you can add the hoses.
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As far as I can see, you're absolutely right; it's a TLF24. BTW the "new" construction unimog (4046 (http://www.playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4046)) would be a good basis for a TLF8 custom (cf. here (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:TLF8W.jpg&filetimestamp=20071211201116)).
Anyway a great custom. I like especially the back operation control where you can add the hoses.
Thank you for confirming it is a TLF24 and for your kind comments.
You're quite right about the 4046 being a good basis for a TLF8, and I was certain that that was what Playmobil would do! Ah well, maybe next year. On klickywelt I have seen a nice custom using the 4046 chassis and cab and the rear of the 3880 fire engine, although the end result was a mixture of a pump and a rescue vehicle.
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Beautiful custom Gordon :wow:! How many 3880 engines does that make in your fleet now? Have you revised any of your earlier creations, or are you adding new ones as you develop fresh ideas to out date your original units?
Bill
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Beautiful! :wow:
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Beautiful custom Gordon :wow:! How many 3880 engines does that make in your fleet now? Have you revised any of your earlier creations, or are you adding new ones as you develop fresh ideas to out date your original units?
Bill
Thank you, Bill.
The breakdown of the brigade is as follows:
pumps: 3 x TLF8s; 1 x TLF16; 1 x TLF24 - all 3880 based
rescue: 1 x RW1 - 3880 based
equipment carriers: 1 x GW (in build and basically a 3880 with no interior, but that may change during building) -3880 based
general purpose: 1 x flatbed with HIAB crane (LKW) - 3880 based
turntable ladders: 1 x 3781 and 1 x 3879 (possibly to be disposed of)
crew/towing units: 2 x 3181s
command and control units: 4 x Jeeps and 1 x 3614
trailers: 3 x 3178s (fire, rescue, environmental/salvage) and a number of smaller trailers for general purpose use)
staff car - 1 x 3139
And I think that's it.
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Impressive array of engines, & equipment :)9! Let me know if you are considering retiring your 3879 ladder truck, I may like to work out a deal if you are going to substitute it with the new style 4820! Thank's to your help with the flashing light dilemma, I now am up to 32 x 3880, & 5716 engines with 4 of them currently being converted to rescue tenders :-[!
It's my humble opinion that the 3880 engine design with the shutter doors has been the most versatile so far, & I'm slightly disappointed in regards to the new 4821 engines doors flipping up instead of sliding upwards into the body like the 3880's.
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Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.
Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?
Gepetto
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Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.
Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?
Gepetto
Thank you for your kind comments, Gepetto, and I'm happy to answer any questions. The tank is carried on the WCr and is a collapsible one, possibly a canvas one erected over a metal frame. The water tanker has what's known as a dump valve which allows its load to be dumped into the tank very quickly at one go.
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Beautiful customs Gordon (as usual) and your ability to describe the components and their use really help to put them in context which makes them even more interesting.
Having said that, they can also raise some questions, you referenced a much earlier post of yours describing a tanker unit you made and mentioned that some rural areas had 10,000L WCr units to supply water to appliances that were fighting the actual fire, you stated that these WCr units could dump their water into a temporary tank at the scene which the other appliances could feed from. My question is this - what kind of temporary tank is this? Is it rigid, collapsible, trailer, bladder? Who brings it to the scene (this is what happens when you arouse our curiosity)?
Gepetto
The ones we used in the US fire services when I was active were usually carried in a collapsed position, by large tanker trucks, & were a foldable hinged metal frame with a durable heavy vinyl liner like an above ground swimming pool! The tanker crew would deploy the portable water reservoir, fill it from their tank, & then go to the nearest water supply source, refill their tank, & shuttle the water back to refill the portable reservoir continuing this mission throughout the fire battling process. The engines would siphon the water from the portable reservoir to fill their on board tanks, & supply the firefighting teams. Normally there were multiple supply tankers to shuttle the required water needed on the job. How do British fire brigades accomplish this task?
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Impressive array of engines, & equipment :)9! Let me know if you are considering retiring your 3879 ladder truck, I may like to work out a deal if you are going to substitute it with the new style 4820! Thank's to your help with the flashing light dilemma, I now am up to 32 x 3880, & 5716 engines with 4 of them currently being converted to rescue tenders :-[!
It's my humble opinion that the 3880 engine design with the shutter doors has been the most versatile so far, & I'm slightly disappointed in regards to the new 4821 engines doors flipping up instead of sliding upwards into the body like the 3880's.
Thank you, Bill. Diane says she is glad that I chose the idea of a small, volunteer fire brigade!
As regards the 3879, I'd be happy to come to some sort of deal, although I must say that it has been modified by having a couple of holes drilled in the surface behind the fold down locker cover; these are to allow storage of the stretcher off the ladder cage.
I agree with you about the 3880. Those roller shutter doors are a beautiful piece of design and adaptation of the real world to the miniature. I imagine that to have six of these on the new 4821 would pose design/strength/cost problems. A possible compromise would have been to have had lift up locker covers which slide into the top of the body, like in the attachment, but maybe that would have meant a too wide body compared with other trucks in the range.
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Thank you Gordon and Bill for your explanations. :wow: I remember when I used to hunt, seeing crews in the logging areas filling their tankers from the most improbable little streams and digging little 'collecting pools' to pump the water from. This really is fascinating stuff!
Gepetto
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The ones we used in the US fire services when I was active were usually carried in a collapsed position, by large tanker trucks, & were a foldable hinged metal frame with a durable heavy vinyl liner like an above ground swimming pool! The tanker crew would deploy the portable water reservoir, fill it from their tank, & then go to the nearest water supply source, refill their tank, & shuttle the water back to refill the portable reservoir continuing this mission throughout the fire battling process. The engines would siphon the water from the portable reservoir to fill their on board tanks, & supply the firefighting teams. Normally there were multiple supply tankers to shuttle the required water needed on the job. How do British fire brigades accomplish this task?
Broadly as you have described, Bill. Here's some photos from Shropshire fire service's site.
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Great! Thanks for the photos Gordon, they are indeed worth a thousand words.
Gepetto
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beautiful Pict's
a specials foam blusser with specials nozzle's and mixers build in the truck
well done
groet Peter
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Hallo Gordon
I upload a couple of pictures of mine foam branch fore middle foam and heavy foam
and the parts i made them of.
groet peter
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dit you all make a foam mixer fore in bitween hoses
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Those are very neat custom foam branches, Peter.
Is the equipment in the photo what you had in mind as a foam mixer for in-between hoses? (I'll post another photo of it tomorrow showing it all.)
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yes that is Wat i mine later i post a Pict of a model we use
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this is a pict of the foam mixer we use
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Pict's of the foam mixer in bitween hoses in use at the fire brigade of Playmodam
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Thank you for the pictures Peter, I wondered how those things worked! :wave:
Gepetto
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Hi Peter, thank you for the pictures. It's always interesting to see how other fire brigades work.
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Great custom Gordon. I'm really digging the foam nozzles. 8-)
- Ben
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Hello Gordon,
Apologies for the late reply and for bumping an old thread again. This is truly a work of art Gordon, one of your best vehicles to date and that's saying something :yup:. I am allways impressed by your vehicles and the attention to detail, I don't think there is anyone else out there who can transform a 3880 like you can :wow:. I also like your custom foam branch, its a work of art in its own right. This is something I have been trying to master myself for some time but I didn't quite know where to start. I think I am going to go back and look at the pictures again :yup:.
Tim :wave: