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Title: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: FireChief on February 26, 2009, 21:19:09
Hello everyone,

I've always wanted to make the 3880's that I have look a little more like they're from the US. Most Engines (pumpers) in the US have side mounted pumps and large hosebeds located on the top of the truck, while trucks in the UK have pumps mounted in the rear of the truck and rolled hose. (Gordon, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Somehow I managed to make every truck the same.
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: FireChief on February 26, 2009, 21:25:34
Now the Hosebed.

I have put 4 short sections and 1 long section of hose up top with a short section on a roll inside the truck. Two of the short sections up top have nozzles attached so they can be placed into action within minutes.

I've also painted regular extinguishers silver to make watercans. Watercans are 20 gallon water extinguishers.
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: FireChief on February 26, 2009, 21:29:22
Well that's it for now.

My next customs, already in the shop, are a crash truck and first responder unit for the airport.  >:D

 - Ben
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on February 26, 2009, 22:54:03
Excellent custom water connections Ben  :wow:! We look forward to seeing your additional contributions! I've been working on some of the same type of connections also for my fleet, but I decided to put them on the rear 1/4 panels because of the pump being located there, & without drilling any holes! I'm still working on it though!

Bill
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: playmofire on February 26, 2009, 22:54:20
Very nice customs, Ben, they look very smart and very American.  The hose, I think, looks especially good and the idea of painting the fire extinguishers silver to create watercans is a good one.

What you say about UK fire engines is correct.  Rolls of hose are carried in the side lockers and the pump is mounted at the rear.  Side mounted pumps were in fashion to some extent when wheeled escape ladders were carried as if the pump was at the rear the escape had to be dismounted to operate the pump and this took time and, of course, meant that the escape had to be parked somewhere, not always easy in, say, a narrow city street.

BTW, what else do you have on top of the pump?
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: Gepetto on February 27, 2009, 03:23:37
Thanks for the photos Ben, I had not really noticed the difference till I saw your customs and realized that those are indeed what I am used to seeing (but evidently, not noticing).



Gepetto
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: FireChief on February 28, 2009, 17:38:52
Hey Everyone, Thanks for all the compliments.

Gordon, I've placed some shovels and streetbrooms along with all the hose. I also painted the ladders orange (to look more official) and some of the engines have hard suction hose and the hazmat vaccums.

Bill, I will see how many extra fittings I have, I know it's a lot, if you would like. Another thing DS has never had are the yellow air cylinders.  >:( Good luck with you project.

 - Ben 
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: noodwachter72 on March 02, 2009, 20:44:51
truck 23   2487

now a understood way the dashboard is in the middle of the truck

In the Netherlands We only have front mounted or back mounted pumps

Peter
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: Little Jo on March 04, 2009, 21:48:23
Nice idea and well executed.

To be honest I actually do not know where in Germany the water outlet is placed. I think at some vehicles at the back but I think there are also some where the outlet is at the side like yours but behind a cover ...  ???
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: playmofire on March 05, 2009, 07:22:12
Nice idea and well executed.

To be honest I actually do not know where in Germany the water outlet is placed. I think at some vehicles at the back but I think there are also some where the outlet is at the side like yours but behind a cover ...  ???

That's right, Jochen, although sometimes the side ones are not covered over at all.  I can't quickly find a picture, but this custom was based on a photograph of a German fire engine:

http://www.playmofire.eu/tlf16page2.html
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on March 05, 2009, 12:19:13
That's right, Jochen, although sometimes the side ones are not covered over at all.  I can't quickly find a picture, but this custom was based on a photograph of a German fire engine:
http://www.playmofire.eu/tlf16page2.html

Excellent custom Playmofire  :wow:! When did you design this masterpiece? It favors my design, but mine has 3 connections on each side. & doesn't pump actual water.
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: playmofire on March 05, 2009, 13:37:34
Excellent custom Playmofire  :wow:! When did you design this masterpiece? It favors my design, but mine has 3 connections on each side. & doesn't pump actual water.

Thanks, Bill.  This was made about two years ago.  I originally thought of cutting hose connectors in two and then glueing them to the outside, but finally took the plunge to trust my marking-out and drilling skills to do the job properly. I must update my website as there are other appliance photos to go on, although I am still desperately looking for my 5 or 6 files of actual incidents.

Attached is a photo of a real German fire appliance using the side outlets.  The practice of covering them up when not in use is a recent design change.  I've seen other photos of outlets under the side chassis.
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: nicki72 on March 05, 2009, 15:13:24
Wow, guys!  These are very cool!  I have to confess, I would never have paid attention to the differences in fire trucks internationally!  You can bet I'll be looking the next time I see one!  I'm amazed at people's ability to customise their Playmo--what skills!  :yup: :yup:
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: Little Jo on March 05, 2009, 18:12:51
Ah, yes, that was what I meant. Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: noodwachter72 on March 06, 2009, 09:52:55
Thanks, Bill.  This was made about two years ago.  I originally thought of cutting hose connectors in two and then glueing them to the outside, but finally took the plunge to trust my marking-out and drilling skills to do the job properly. I must update my website as there are other appliance photos to go on, although I am still desperately looking for my 5 or 6 files of actual incidents.

Attached is a photo of a real German fire appliance using the side outlets.  The practice of covering them up when not in use is a recent design change.  I've seen other photos of outlets under the side chassis.

Hallo Gordon

the side outlets  on your truck and picture belongs to a back build pomp
I mane  the pomp built in the middle of the truck  width the in and outlets on the side
I have sine it ones in the Netherlands

groet Peter 
Title: Re: 3880 as a US style Engine
Post by: playmofire on March 06, 2009, 11:46:54
Hallo Gordon

the side outlets  on your truck and picture belongs to a back build pomp
I mane  the pomp built in the middle of the truck  width the in and outlets on the side
I have sine it ones in the Netherlands

groet Peter 
Hallo Peter,

I agree, Peter, I too have only seen rear- or front-mounted pumps in the Netherlands.  The pictures of the German fire engines were to answer Little Jo's post.  I think mid-mounted pumps have the disadvantage that you have to have outlets and inlets each side and so that is maybe why they are less popular in Europe.  In the USA, I think the pumps were mid-mounted from early on because the firemen stood on the rear of the engine whereas in Europe they usually stood along the sides.