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General => News => Topic started by: Gustavo on July 22, 2008, 03:36:39

Title: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on July 22, 2008, 03:36:39
Hello, Playmofriends!

I made this blog (http://blackhairgus.blogspot.com/) thinking about leading some friends from out of Playmofriends into my Elmo & Fletcher stories (&, somehow, I'll find a way to list the Pirates' chronicles too, as well as one you haven't yet seen, but which is planned: Fromgar & the Elf (or Fromgar & the Elves). Maybe it will serve some of you as well, who may happen to like the stories, and wish to know what's been new ... The blog will always be updated.

(Fletcher's trip Part II has been posted in the same thread of Part I, and I fear some of you may have missed it.)

(Or maybe it was very bad, so that noone found anything to say :-[ but, well, if so, it happens ;D ...)

So, from the blog you'll may follow the news, now & again, and see whether you've lost anything without much work.

(Even because I'll only change thread when an "episode" is over. It's more economic, and makes sense (to me), as story-telling ...)

So, enjoy the stories!

In touch,

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on July 27, 2008, 20:48:11
Another Hello, Playmofriends!
 :wave:


Everyone seem to have become a little shy on commenting Elmo & Fletcher's stories!
Or maybe they became common (and, sometimes, when so, boring ...) pf: :zz:

Or maybe you don't want to break the line pf: :-X :shhhh:,
or are waiting for the story to reach something worthy to say anything pf: ??? ...
I don't know. me: :eh?:

Here, as well as soon in the blog, I hope is the link to the very last chapter : http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=2375.msg27150#msg27150

It will help me :help: if you give any kind of feedback (":) / :( / :hmm:"). It might be via pm, if there's something annoying or so (">:(") ... I don_know, because people actually stopped saying anything, either good or bad or critical, so, as I said: I don't know :-[

Maybe more people have been to Ireland ;) (or other places, for Summer ;D )

Cheers!

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Martin Milner on July 29, 2008, 11:58:37
I'm reading the episodes Gus, as I can see other people are too, but waiting to see what happens next.

Each episode is quite short, so the story is progressing quite slowly. That's fine, that's your preferred style. I presumne you have a definite end in view for each story, but as we haven't go there yet, commenting now feels like interrupting the storyteller.

When I post my stories I try to reach some punch line or gag at the end, usually within ten or a dozen photos, that ends that particular tale, though many people seem to miss this joke, maybe because of language difficulties. Tim's stories usually starts out strange, rapidly progress off-the-wall, before going completely bat-[censored]-crazy.

I'm hoping to get more technically adept over time with my stuff, creating slideshows with speech bubbles and possibly background music, so the action all unfolds on one mouse click.

Also bear in mind this is quite a small circle of friends, maybe 30 active regular posters, and most people aren't creating stories - we've had a few older ones re-cycled in the last year (and very good they were too, remembering thinking of Sylvia's Home for Christmas and Gordon's rescue scene), but I think only Timotheos, you and I have posted more than two new stories or episodes each.

You could post your stories on other Playmobil sites to see if you get more response, but I think most people enjoy reading them but don't feel the need to praise or criticise.
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Indianna on July 29, 2008, 18:53:42
. . . . but I think most people enjoy reading them but don't feel the need to praise or criticise.

Gus, I quite agree with Martin.  Also, many of us simply don't have as much time to spend at Playmofriends as we would like and, therefore, do not always respond to everything that interests us.  Take me, for example . . . . I enjoy dropping in when I can but Playmobil is just not as big a part of my life now as it was when my children were younger   :'(   A few years ago, however, you couldn't shut me up, as some folks here may recall.    :toot:

I always enjoy your contributions, Gus, whether comments, photos, or stories.   :)9  Your enthusiasm for Playmobil is delightful and your ability to express yourself so well in a foreign language is impressive.  Please know that your work is appreciated and enjoyed!    :clap:


Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: playmofire on July 29, 2008, 20:08:35
Like Martin, I read each episode but don't necessarily feel the need to comment on each one.  That doesn't mean I don't enjoy them and I can understand how you feel when people don't comment.  A lot of hard work goes into creating a story and it is a very personal thing, and so it's quite understandable to feel disappointed when there doesn't appear to be a lot of interest.  Maybe, though, what is important is the number of viewings rather than the number of replies.
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on July 30, 2008, 01:34:53


Thanks, guys!
 :)


This is a beginning.

I thought it to happen so: people not feeling the need to comment, once there's no "conclusion", or something like ...

I felt I needed to confirm this :-\

Now I'm a bit more relieved. Specially because this is the idea and the style of Elmo & Fletcher, all right :yup:, so, it'll probably go on like this lo-ong ... (or so I hope! ;D )

I have plans for narrative. However, if anyone would like to give ideas, this would be interesting. But things are going on, according to my possibility, because ... well, sometimes, life gets the time I'd like to be spending in Playmo ... Like last two days. (Work, "condo" meeting at night, more work ...)

 :wave:

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Martin Milner on September 01, 2008, 07:20:44
Hi Gus,

eagerly awaiting the next episode of Elmo & Fletcher!

Like you, I have a photostory already photographed, and my holdup is to get the text incorporated for which I need my wife's help, and we haven't had a spare evening to do it.

I'm planning to add speech bubbles and then make it into a slideshow, as there are a lot of pictures with very little text for each one.

My story features a couple of new characters, and may or may not be the start of a series.
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on September 03, 2008, 02:01:13
Hi Gus,

eagerly awaiting the next episode of Elmo & Fletcher!


Don't put much expectations, Martin ... :-[ Maybe you'll get disappointed. But, well, lets see. I'm eagerly awaiting to put it myself, so as to finally conclude something. (...)



Like you, I have a photostory already photographed, and my holdup is to get the text incorporated for which I need my wife's help, and we haven't had a spare evening to do it.

I'm planning to add speech bubbles and then make it into a slideshow, as there are a lot of pictures with very little text for each one.

My story features a couple of new characters, and may or may not be the start of a series.


I'm curious ;D

I have other stories with Elmo & Fletcher too, so it will be a little series ... Not long, though, at least, I don't have great plans ... But there's one thing I intend to make with it, primarily, which will demand other episodes. And some thought, to the future. Lets see.

I work fine without bubbles, it's funny ... People seem to like using them. I don't, but I like some works with it. But I think it very difficult to make bubbles and make work graphcally beautiful ... "Night of the Reaper" (http://www.justforklicks.com/j4k/stories/reaper/part1/reaper01.html), though, (which is a parameter to me) has a beautiful work ...

But your work is quite new ... In slideshow ... "Night of the Reaper" is comic-book-like.

My photostory has no bubbles. I like to make text. But, well, ... I'm a kind of a writer.

Gus
:blackhair:

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Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Martin Milner on September 03, 2008, 07:23:20

My photostory has no bubbles. I like to make text. But, well, ... I'm a kind of a writer.


I have done speech bubbles before (well, my wife did it for me), but I'm not addicted to them. Sometimes they're right for the job, when each character is only saying a few words. Your characters tend to speak more, and too much speech bubble obsures the picture too much IMO.

I have done a slideshow once before - it was OK, my first attempt at a photostory, but limited to only 10 frames at the time by Photobucket's site. They've updated their site since and there appears to be no limit on the number of frames.

I also have a pirate saga brewing up, but don't want to rush into photography before I have the storyline and characters sorted out. 
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Timotheos on September 03, 2008, 12:52:33
My photostory has no bubbles. I like to make text. But, well, ... I'm a kind of a writer.

Hey Mate I'm a published writer who has even done book signings.

I use speech bubbles because I want this silliness to be like a comic book!

-Tim

EDIT:
Speech bubbles are useful for guiding the readers eyes across the picture in the direction you want; they also provide a visual cue to the writer about how wordy he is getting. 

People are more likely to read speech bubbles than read text that is not part of the picture, especially if the text blurb is too long.  The speech bubbles are in front of their eyes as they scan the photograph whereas the text is somewhere else, often in a small, unremarkable font.


Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Martin Milner on September 03, 2008, 13:15:54

People are more likely to read speech bubbles than read text that is not part of the picture, especially if the text blurb is too long.  The speech bubbles are in front of their eyes as they scan the photograph whereas the text is somewhere else, often in a small, unremarkable font.


Which must be why comic books are more popular than newspapers.  ;D

Would you sign this thread for us again, Tim? Might be worth something one day.
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Timotheos on September 04, 2008, 00:43:22
Would you sign this thread for us again, Tim? Might be worth something one day.

In American parlance, "writer" applies to the writer of a comic strip equally as to the writer of prose without accompanying illustrations.

The thread seemed to be drifting in a direction that suggested that real writers avoided text bubbles.

I'm "kind of a writer" too (I've finished several novels, but have never managed to sell one...   :'( :'( :'( just a few measly short stories...   :'( :'( :'( :'( ).

Actually, my Playmobil collection owes its existence to my failure as a writer! 

I turned to toys to recover from the cataclysm of the Great Lead Wheel (aka the cliques that dominate writing fiction and reading it) crushing me into the dirt.

I still write, but don't tell the Great Lead Wheel.

It's so vain and vicious that it would probably hire somebody to kill my dog if it saw me having too much fun.

-Tim




 
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on September 04, 2008, 03:30:27

I'm "kind of a writer" too (I've finished several novels, but have never managed to sell one...   :'( :'( :'( just a few measly short stories...   :'( :'( :'( :'( ).


If you have several novels, and managed to sell a few short stories, Tim, I tell you: you are a writer. I am a kind of a writer ... I have no complete novel, and nothing sold. (And very little stuff actually published.)


Writers may like well using bubbles!* ... It's not the way that I like better to do my photostories but, again, I'm almost a writer, I think. (I actually say so, at this point: I'm almost a writer.) Maybe into some years, from now ... I work really slow in this. & 'Not worried about it. At all.

And 'absolutely make no plans of writing for living. -- This is me, though. "Cada cabeça, sua sentença", says a proverb in Portuguese, which means generally that each person knows of himself.


Gus
:blackhair:


*And, well, there may be those who do, there may be those who don't ... There may be those who won't ever make a photostory. There may be many who don't know what a klicky is. Same for actors; it seems the Indiana Jones guy (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=2251.msg24981#msg24981) happens to know ;D Good for him!
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Timotheos on September 04, 2008, 14:41:35
And 'absolutely make no plans of writing for living. -- This is me, though. "Cada cabeça, sua sentença", says a proverb in Portuguese, which means generally that each person knows of himself.

My foray into commercial writing was very disillusioning.

It's very much a job.  "Writing what you want to write" is like having a job at McDonalds and telling the boss (and the customers) you'd prefer to serve a fish sandwich when the customer wants a hamburger because fish in your opinion tastes better.

We amateurs approach the "entertainment industry" with a lot of idealistic misconceptions.

"People will like what I write because it's me writing it!"

Whoops!
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Martin Milner on September 05, 2008, 09:47:10
I admire you guys for even trying to write commercially. I think a lot of potential writers get put off by the industry, and it's a shame.

I think many writers, once published, get trapped into a particular style that they may tire of, and only a few elite like Bill Bryson or Stephen King manage to get published in different genres.
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Rasputin on September 08, 2008, 19:18:16
Tim i took a crack at the bubbles and just this one image took me like 1 1/2 hours to figure this much out . I still do not like the font, i want a more silly comic book image . I am trying Photoshop CS 8.0 8}
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3613/bart01gd7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on September 10, 2008, 02:46:11
My photostory has no bubbles. I like to make text. But, well, ... I'm a kind of a writer.

Hey Mate I'm a published writer who has even done book signings.

I use speech bubbles because I want this silliness to be like a comic book!

-Tim

EDIT:
Speech bubbles are useful for guiding the readers eyes across the picture in the direction you want; they also provide a visual cue to the writer about how wordy he is getting. 

People are more likely to read speech bubbles than read text that is not part of the picture, especially if the text blurb is too long.  The speech bubbles are in front of their eyes as they scan the photograph whereas the text is somewhere else, often in a small, unremarkable font.





There you go, Tim: I got what makes me not use the bubbles.

One of my most important characters is the narrator! ;D

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on September 16, 2008, 02:12:48
ON ELMO & FLETCHER

So, next step is to make some stories I had in mind. Now the introduction is finished. I already shot one next part, but maybe I'll shoot one pirates' story before making the next beginning of Elmo & Fletcher.

You may have noticed that there's a lot of things that weren't explained in the last part of the plot. Well ... It's because there's more to come.

Now, I'm tempted to shoot and write pirates' stories because it's operationally easier, however, I'll have a bit of hard work in making the scenario according to what I've conceived for the next pirates' part ... Although ...

Well, lets see if next weekend will give me the time & disposition I need to either of'em.

Lots of stories, lots of work ::) one way or another ...

 :wave:

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: An index to Elmo & Fletcher
Post by: Gustavo on October 14, 2008, 02:58:37
It's now that Elmo & Fletcher's stories actually begin ;D

I'm beginning to publish something, but it'll come alternately with the pirates' chronicles, which has more plot developed ...

There's a few things, though, in E&F that I wish to put there ...
This first visit at Feor's will be in three parts, a, b & c. It's odd, but because of text arrangement, E&F is a lot more work than the pirates, and it's impossible to publish many things at once. It demands some work. It's a nice result, though, even with the limited equipment I still have.

I hope everyone's enjoying it! :yup:
Let me know, whatever ...

Yours,

Gus
:blackhair: